{"id":10982,"date":"2001-01-02T00:08:20","date_gmt":"2001-01-01T22:08:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/13-02-07-copy\/"},"modified":"2022-09-14T11:23:59","modified_gmt":"2022-09-14T08:23:59","slug":"13-02-08","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/13-02-08\/","title":{"rendered":"08. Sukkot <\/em>with Cloth Walls"},"content":{"rendered":"

In recent times, people have begun to make sukkot <\/em>with metal frames and walls made out of various types of thick cloth and fabric, like canvas, polyester, and plastics (often with brand names like Pe\u2019er Lanetzach and Ease-Lock Supreme). These sukkot<\/em> are popular because they are cheap to make, easy to market, simple to put up and take down, and convenient to store. However, some contemporary poskim<\/em> question their validity because sukka<\/em> walls must be stable. If they can be blown back and forth by the wind, they are invalid.<\/p>\n

Nevertheless, in practice, these sukkot<\/em> are kosher. The Rishonim objected to fabric walls that were not fastened at the bottom, so when wind blows, the walls rose more than 3 tefa\u1e25im<\/em> from the ground, invalidating them as walls. There was also the possibility that the wind would blow them away entirely. However, neither of these concerns applies to contemporary sukkot<\/em>, since the fabric is fastened well all the way around. Therefore, these sukkot<\/em> are kosher and the berakha<\/em> may be recited in them. Those who are fastidious may add poles to create lavud<\/em> walls.[11]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n

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\n[11]<\/a>. Sukka<\/em> 24b states that walls made of tree branches that sway in the wind are invalid, so they must be fastened so they do not sway. Rambam and Shul\u1e25an Arukh<\/em> codify this ruling (MT, Laws of Shofar, Sukka<\/em>, and Lulav<\/em> 4:5; SA 630:10). Based on this, some wish to claim that any movement of a sukka<\/em> wall invalidates the sukka<\/em> (Mishkenot Yaakov<\/em>, O\u1e24 123; Ye\u1e25aveh Da\u2019at<\/em> 3:46). However, this is a very difficult position to defend, as it is impossible to fasten tree branches so that they do not sway at all. Indeed, all of the Rishonim who comment on this passage imply that the walls are invalid only when a normal wind causes a gap of 3 tefa\u1e25im<\/em> between the wall and the ground. In such a case, the wall is invalid even when there is no wind. However, a bit of motion that does not create such a gap does not invalidate the wall. See Har\u1e25avot<\/em>, which explains that this view emerges from the words of R. Sa\u2019adia Gaon, Me\u2019iri, Rashba, Hagahot Asheri<\/em>, and R. Yonatan of Lunel. Rabbeinu Peretz (cited in Tur<\/em> and SA 630:10) states explicitly that only when there is concern that the fabric will become completely detached from the frame is it proper not to use it for walls. Mabit, Tosefet Shabbat<\/em>, Pri Megadim<\/em>, \u1e24azon Ish<\/em> (O\u1e24 77:6), and Melumdei Mil\u1e25ama<\/em> (\u00a796) write accordingly.<\/p>\n

Those who wish to show concern for the stringent view should place horizontal bars no more than 3 tefa\u1e25im <\/em>(22.8 cm) from one another, up to a height of 10 tefa\u1e25im<\/em> (c. 80 cm). The gaps of under 3 tefa\u1e25im<\/em> are considered lavud<\/em>, and so the bars constitute a wall even without the fabric. However, many make a mistake when they implement this stringency, relying on R. \u1e24ayim Naeh\u2019s view that 3 tefa\u1e25im<\/em> is 24 cm, whereas it is actually only 22.8 cm. If the distance between the bars is greater than that, lavud<\/em> no longer applies to them (as we explained in note 1). Nevertheless, the sukka<\/em> is unquestionably kosher, as the halakha<\/em> here follows the lenient view.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

In recent times, people have begun to make sukkot with metal frames and walls made out of various types of thick cloth and fabric, like canvas, polyester, and plastics (often with brand names like Pe\u2019er Lanetzach and Ease-Lock Supreme). These sukkot are popular because they are cheap to make, easy to market, simple to put […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":10,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[200],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10982","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-13-02"],"yoast_head":"\n08. 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