{"id":12195,"date":"2026-07-11T00:12:51","date_gmt":"2026-07-10T21:12:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/?p=12195"},"modified":"2026-08-05T13:33:17","modified_gmt":"2026-08-05T10:33:17","slug":"17-11-12","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/17-11-12\/","title":{"rendered":"12. Liquid Batter \u2013 Blintzes and La\u1e25u\u1e25"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"direction: ltr\">As a general rule, dough intended for baking is thick, since it is meant to become a baked grain product. By contrast, batter prepared for cooking \u2013 such as porridge or soup that contains a large amount of flour \u2013 never takes on the status of bread, and therefore one is not obligated to separate <em>\u1e25alla<\/em> from it. For the same reason, even if one eats enough of it to constitute a full meal, he recites <em>mezonot<\/em> and <em>al ha-mi\u1e25ya<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"direction: ltr\">Sometimes, however, liquid batter is poured into a pot, baking pan, or frying pan and gradually sets into a baked item, such as pancakes. Once it takes on the form of bread \u2013 that is, the form of a baked grain product \u2013 one must separate <em>\u1e25alla<\/em> from it. If one establishes a meal on it, he recites <em>ha-motzi<\/em> and Birkat Ha-mazon. Only once the batter has finished baking does the obligation of <em>\u1e25alla<\/em> take effect; until then, it remains a batter rather than bread dough (<em>Sefer ha-Teruma<\/em>; <em>Torat ha-Aretz<\/em> I 4:92\u201393). However, even after baking, one separates <em>\u1e25alla<\/em> only if the baked items contain enough flour to reach the <em>\u1e25alla<\/em> threshold. Since a single pancake or similar item generally does not contain that amount on its own, <em>\u1e25alla<\/em> becomes relevant only when several such items are combined, as explained above, section 7.<\/p>\n<p style=\"direction: ltr\">This is the rule for pancakes, <em>la\u1e25u\u1e25<\/em>, blintzes, Belgian waffles, and similar foods. When the batter bakes into a product with real thickness \u2013 the kind of thickness created as it rises during baking \u2013 it has the form of a baked grain product. One must therefore separate <em>\u1e25alla<\/em> from it, and if one eats enough of it to constitute a full meal, he recites <em>ha-motzi<\/em> and Birkat Ha-mazon. If, however, the batter is made especially thin, the finished product does not have the form of a baked good; one does not separate <em>\u1e25alla<\/em> from it, and even if one eats enough of it to constitute a full meal, he recites <em>mezonot<\/em> and <em>al ha-mi\u1e25ya<\/em>. When it is uncertain whether the items are ordinary baked products or especially thin ones, one separates <em>\u1e25alla<\/em> without a berakha.<sup><a id=\"_te01ftnref11_14\" class=\"aup1\" href=\"#_te01ftn11_14\">[14]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<div>\n<hr style=\"direction: ltr\" size=\"1\" \/>\n<div>\n<p style=\"direction: ltr\"><a id=\"_te01ftn11_14\" href=\"#_te01ftnref11_14\">[14]<\/a>. The Gemara states: \u201c<em>Truknin<\/em> are subject to <em>\u1e25alla<\/em>\u2026 <em>trita<\/em> is exempt from <em>\u1e25alla<\/em>\u201d (<em>Berakhot<\/em> 37b). In both cases, the food begins as a liquid batter. The difference is that <em>truknin<\/em> becomes a thick baked product, while <em>trita<\/em> becomes a thin one. Rosh explains that <em>trita<\/em> is exempt because it lacks the form of bread. This is also the ruling of SA YD 329:5 and SA O\u1e24 168:15.<\/p>\n<p style=\"direction: ltr\">The practical question, then, is how to identify the \u201cform of bread\u201d in foods made from liquid batter, such as pancakes, crepes, <em>la\u1e25u\u1e25<\/em>, blintzes, and Belgian waffles. Many authorities distinguish between thick and thin products: when the batter bakes into something with real thickness, one must separate <em>\u1e25alla<\/em>; when it becomes especially thin, one does not separate <em>\u1e25alla<\/em> from it. Some attempted to define this threshold numerically, ruling that one does not separate <em>\u1e25alla<\/em> from a product less than 3 mm thick, while one must separate <em>\u1e25alla<\/em> from a product thicker than 7 mm (<em>Shul\u1e25an Arukh ha-Mekutzar<\/em> YD 170:19). Others suggested judging by the baking process itself: if the batter becomes ready to eat almost immediately after being poured into the pan, it lacks the form of bread, and one does not separate <em>\u1e25alla<\/em> from it; if it is thick enough that baking takes several minutes, it has the form of bread, and one must separate <em>\u1e25alla<\/em> from it (<em>Tevu\u2019at ha-Sadeh<\/em> 5:14).<\/p>\n<p style=\"direction: ltr\">It seems, however, that these are only external indicators, not practical standards for halakhic ruling. People cannot reasonably be expected to measure the thickness of a pancake, and baking time depends greatly on the heat of the pan. Therefore, as a rule, one must separate <em>\u1e25alla<\/em> from these baked batter products. Only in unusual cases does one not separate <em>\u1e25alla<\/em> from them: when they are made so thin that they no longer appear to have the form of bread \u2013 that is, the form of a baked product. This also accords with the example commonly given by the poskim for exempt <em>trita<\/em>: a wafer, meaning a single very thin layer of an ordinary wafer, crisp because of its thinness and dryness. A Belgian waffle, by contrast, is thick, and therefore one must separate <em>\u1e25alla<\/em> from it.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As a general rule, dough intended for baking is thick, since it is meant to become a baked grain product. 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