{"id":375,"date":"2010-02-09T05:00:10","date_gmt":"2010-02-09T03:00:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/?p=375"},"modified":"2010-02-09T05:00:10","modified_gmt":"2010-02-09T03:00:10","slug":"05-09-05","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/05-09-05\/","title":{"rendered":"5 \u2013 Havdalah on Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av When it Falls Out on Saturday Night"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The fast begins immediately after Shabbat, making it is impossible to say <em>havdalah<\/em> over a cup of wine. Therefore, we postpone saying this form of <em>havdalah<\/em> until after the fast. Nevertheless, we say <em>havdalah<\/em> \u2013 \u201c<em>Ata Chonantanu<\/em>\u201d \u2013 in the <em>Ma\u2019ariv<\/em> prayers, after which we are permitted to do work. Some say that woman should pray <em>Ma\u2019ariv<\/em> on such a Saturday night, in order to make <em>havdalah<\/em> in <em>Ata Chonantanu<\/em>. Women who do not [follow this practice] should say, <em>Baruch ha\u2019mavdil bein kodesh le\u2019chol<\/em>, after which they are permitted to do work (<em>M.B.<\/em> 556:2). <\/p>\n<p>In addition, we recite the blessing over fire on [such a] Saturday night, because this blessing is not dependent on the cup of wine. Rather, it is an expression of thanks [to God] for creating fire, which was revealed to Adam on [the first] <em>motzai Shabbat<\/em> (Saturday night). The custom is to recite the blessing after <em>Ma\u2019ariv<\/em>, before the reading of <em>Eichah<\/em>, because people light candles at that time. Women also recite the blessing over fire. One who procrastinates and fails to make a blessing over a candle at the beginning of the evening may say the blessing all night long, for the entire night of <em>motzai Shabbat<\/em> is the [proper] time for this blessing. <\/p>\n<p>At the end of the fast, before eating or drinking, one must say <em>havdalah<\/em> over a cup [of wine], which includes two blessings: <em>Al hagefen<\/em> (on the wine) and <em>HaMavdil<\/em> (He Who separates). No blessing is made on spices or fire. <\/p>\n<p>I will elaborate: The Rabbis enacted that one may not do work on Saturday night, even though the stars have already emerged, before reciting some form of <em>havdalah<\/em>, like <em>Ata chonantanu<\/em>, and that one may not eat before saying <em>havdalah<\/em> over a cup. Therefore, on a Saturday night [that coincides with <em>Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av<\/em>], it is sufficient to make a verbal <em>havdalah<\/em>, which allows us to do work. Then, when <em>Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av<\/em> ends and we need to eat, we say <em>havdalah<\/em> over a cup. <\/p>\n<p>Therefore, a sick person, who needs to eat on <em>Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av<\/em>, must say <em>havdalah<\/em> over a cup before eating. [In such a case], it is proper to use <em>chamar medinah<\/em> [a distinguished beverage other than wine] (preferably something intoxicating, but any ubiquitous drink, like coffee, will do; see <em>Peninei Halachah<\/em>, <em>Shabbat<\/em>, vol. 1, 8:4). If one has no such beverage, he should say <em>havdalah<\/em> over grape juice, and if even that is unavailable, he should say <em>havdalah<\/em> \u2013 <em>be\u2019di\u2019avad<\/em> \u2013 on wine and drink a cheek full (around 40 ml.). If a minor, who has reached the age at which we teach him to recite blessings, is present, it is best to let him drink the wine instead of the sick person. A minor who eats on <em>Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av<\/em> need not say <em>havdalah<\/em> before eating (see <em>Piskei Teshuvot<\/em> 557:31). <\/p>\n<p>Therefore, a sick person, who needs to eat on <em>Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av<\/em>, must say <em>havdalah<\/em> over a cup before eating. [In such a case], it is proper to use <em>chamar medinah<\/em> [a distinguished beverage other than wine] (preferably something intoxicating, but any ubiquitous drink, like coffee, will do; see <em>Peninei Halachah<\/em>, <em>Shabbat<\/em>, vol. 1, 8:4). If one has no such beverage, he should say <em>havdalah<\/em> over grape juice, and if even that is unavailable, he should say <em>havdalah<\/em> \u2013 <em>be\u2019di\u2019avad<\/em> \u2013 on wine and drink a cheek full (around 40 ml.). If a minor, who has reached the age at which we teach him to recite blessings, is present, it is best to let him drink the wine instead of the sick person. A minor who eats on <em>Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av<\/em> need not say <em>havdalah<\/em> before eating (see <em>Piskei Teshuvot<\/em> 557:31). <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The fast begins immediately after Shabbat, making it is impossible to say havdalah over a cup of wine. Therefore, we postpone saying this form of havdalah until after the fast. Nevertheless, we say havdalah \u2013 \u201cAta Chonantanu\u201d \u2013 in the Ma\u2019ariv prayers, after which we are permitted to do work. 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