{"id":5088,"date":"2010-02-10T20:00:42","date_gmt":"2010-02-10T18:00:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/?p=5088"},"modified":"2010-02-10T20:00:42","modified_gmt":"2010-02-10T18:00:42","slug":"05-10-20","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/05-10-20\/","title":{"rendered":"20 \u2013 When Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av Falls Out on Shabbat and is Postponed"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When <em>Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av<\/em> falls out on <em>Shabbat<\/em>, it is postponed until Sunday. On that <em>Shabbat<\/em>, we show no [outward] signs of mourning; rather, we eat and drink like we do on any other <em>Shabbat<\/em>, even feasting like King Shlomo did in his day (see above 9.4).<a id=\"ref2_05_10_27\" href=\"#note2_05_10_27\">[27]<\/a><\/p>\n<p>As we learned above (10.4), pregnant and nursing women must fast on <em>Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av<\/em>. On a postponed fast, however, the law is more lenient, and if they feel slightly weak or if they experience some type of pain, they are exempt from fasting, even though they are not [actually] ill (<em>B.H.<\/em> 559:9, s.v. <em>ve\u2019eino<\/em>; <em>K.H.C.<\/em> 75).<\/p>\n<p>The main participants of a <em>brit milah<\/em> [the father, the <em>mohel<\/em>, and the <em>sandak<\/em>] must fast on <em>Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av<\/em>, but the law is more lenient when <em>Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av<\/em> falls out on <em>Shabbat<\/em> and the fast is postponed until Sunday. According to most <em>poskim<\/em>, these participants may pray <em>Minchah<\/em> after midday, perform the circumcision immediately afterwards, and then eat and drink. Some <em>poskim<\/em> rule strictly on the matter. In practice, the prevalent custom is to perform the <em>brit<\/em> towards the end of the day and eat the meal after the stars emerge.<a id=\"ref2_05_10_28\" href=\"#note2_05_10_28\">[28]<\/a><\/p>\n<p>When <em>Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av<\/em> falls out on <em>Shabbat<\/em> and the fast is postponed until Sunday, the tenth of Av, the customs of mourning do not continue after the fast, and one is allowed to take a haircut, do laundry, and bathe in hot water once the stars emerge. However, many [authorities] maintain that one should refrain from eating meat and drinking wine that night. Since everyone fasted during the day, it is improper to immediately rejoice by consuming meat and wine (<em>Rama<\/em> 558:1, <em>M.B.<\/em> 4-5, Rav [Mordechai] Eliyahu\u2019s<em> Hilchot Chagim<\/em> 29:9). Others permit the consumption of meat and wine immediately following the fast (R. Chayim Vital, <em>Pri Chadash<\/em>, <em>Torat HaMo\u2019adim<\/em> 11:8).<\/p>\n<div>\n<hr size=\"1\" \/>\n<div>\n<p><a id=\"note2_05_10_27\" href=\"#ref2_05_10_27\">[27]<\/a>. The Shulchan Aruch (554:19) writes that when <em>Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av<\/em> coincides with <em>Shabbat<\/em>, one is permitted to do all [that is ordinarily forbidden to be done on <em>Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av<\/em>], even marital relations. The Rama, however, says that one should refrain from such relations, for [acts that constitute] private mourning remain forbidden [on that <em>Shabbat<\/em>], because [refraining from them] does not diminish the honor of the Sabbath. The Mishnah Berurah (40) writes \u2013 based on the Shelah and the Magen Avraham \u2013 that if a woman goes to the <em>mikvah<\/em> [that Friday night], thus making it a <em>mitzvah<\/em> to have marital relations, then even those who [usually] follow the Rama\u2019s customs would rely on the Shulchan Aruch\u2019s opinion.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><a id=\"note2_05_10_28\" href=\"#ref2_05_10_28\">[28]<\/a>. The Shulchan Aruch (559:8) rules leniently and permits [the three main participants] to partake in a meal in honor of the <em>brit<\/em> on a postponed fast day. Other [<em>poskim<\/em>] forbid this; see <em>K.H.C.<\/em> 559:74 and <em>M.A.<\/em> 559:11. Most authorities, however, hold the more lenient opinion; so claim the Mishnah Berurah and [the author of] <em>Torat HaMo\u2019adim<\/em> (2:5). In practice, though, many communities act strictly. The author of <em>Knesset HaGedolah<\/em> writes that the Jews of Turkey acted strictly; the author of <em>Shulchan Gavo\u2019ah<\/em> writes that this was also the custom in Salonika; and <em>Responsa Pe\u2019ulat Tzaddik<\/em> (3:147) cites this as being the custom in Yemen. The Aruch HaShulchan (559:9) writes, \u201cWe have never seen or heard of anyone\u201d making a meal on a postponed<em>Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av<\/em>, or even on one of the minor fasts [that was postponed]. See <em>Piskei Teshuvot<\/em> 559:9. (Regarding the previous <em>halachah<\/em>: the author of <em>Yechaveh Da\u2019at<\/em>, 3:40, rules leniently\u2026 even if [the woman] feels no pain [at all].)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av falls out on Shabbat, it is postponed until Sunday. On that Shabbat, we show no [outward] signs of mourning; rather, we eat and drink like we do on any other Shabbat, even feasting like King Shlomo did in his day (see above 9.4).[27] As we learned above (10.4), pregnant and nursing women [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":10,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[19],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5088","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-05-10"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>20 \u2013 When Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av Falls Out on Shabbat and is Postponed - Peninei Halakha<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/05-10-20\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"20 \u2013 When Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av Falls Out on Shabbat and is Postponed - Peninei Halakha\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"When Tish\u2019a B\u2019Av falls out on Shabbat, it is postponed until Sunday. 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