{"id":5613,"date":"2011-03-04T10:05:52","date_gmt":"2011-03-04T08:05:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/?p=5613"},"modified":"2025-01-14T11:58:34","modified_gmt":"2025-01-14T09:58:34","slug":"04-10-05","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/04-10-05\/","title":{"rendered":"05. <strong>Libun<\/strong>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Sages said that <strong>libun<\/strong> is the insertion of a <strong>kli<\/strong> into fire until \u201cthey shed their outer layer\u201d (<strong>Avoda Zara <\/strong>76a) or until the <strong>kli <\/strong>gives off sparks (<strong>y. Avoda Zara <\/strong>5:15). Since iron generally does not peel or spark when placed in fire, it seems that the Sages\u2019 intent was that <strong>libun<\/strong> should cause the food adhering to the <strong>kli<\/strong> to peel off from it or that the food will give off sparks.<\/p>\n<p>Many maintain that <strong>libun<\/strong> requires heat that can incinerate and destroy any food that can adhere to the <strong>kli<\/strong>, until it is shed in the form of sparks \u2013 even though the fire on which <strong>\u1e25ametz<\/strong> was roasted or baked never reached such an intense heat (<strong>Pri Megadim<\/strong>). This is a temperature of 350-400<sup>o<\/sup>C.<\/p>\n<p>Some rule leniently, maintaining that the principle of <strong>ke-bole\u2019o<\/strong> <strong>kakh<\/strong> <strong>polto<\/strong> applies to the temperature of the fire at the time of absorption. The temperature at the time of absorption is the temperature at which kashering can take place. Thus, for example, if a <strong>kli <\/strong>absorbed flavor at a temperature of 200<sup>o<\/sup>C, it can be kashered at 200<sup>o<\/sup>C. In their view, a baking tray that absorbed a forbidden taste in an oven can be kashered in that oven at the same temperature. In practice, <strong>halakha<\/strong> follows the stringent view, but in times of need, it is possible to be lenient. Therefore, if a <strong>kli <\/strong>is needed, or if following the stringent view might ruin the <strong>kli<\/strong>, one may rely on the lenient view.<\/p>\n<p>There is also light <strong>libun <\/strong>(<strong>libun kal<\/strong>), which entails heating a <strong>kli<\/strong> by fire to the point that a piece of straw placed on the opposite side of the <strong>kli<\/strong> would become singed from the heat, or a fine thread stretched out over the wall of the <strong>kli<\/strong> would become singed and snap from the heat. Light <strong>libun<\/strong> is not effective where regular <strong>libun<\/strong> is required, but it is more effective than <strong>hagala<\/strong> at extracting the flavor absorbed in the <strong>kli<\/strong>, and it also incinerates some of the flavor absorbed in and stuck to the <strong>kli<\/strong>. When it is uncertain if <strong>libun<\/strong> is necessary, one may suffice with light <strong>libun<\/strong>. Light <strong>libun<\/strong> can be performed by putting a <strong>kli<\/strong> in an oven and heating it at the highest temperature for about half an hour.<sup><a id=\"_te01ftnref10_4\" class=\"aup1\" href=\"#_te01ftn10_4\">[4]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<div>\n<hr size=\"1\" \/>\n<div>\n<p><a id=\"_te01ftn10_4\" href=\"#_te01ftnref10_4\">[4]<\/a>. Regarding <strong>libun<\/strong>, <strong>Avoda Zara <\/strong>86a states: \u201cuntil they shed their outer layer.\u201d This is cited in <strong>She\u2019iltot<\/strong>, <strong>Behag<\/strong>, Rif, Rambam, and others. Yerushalmi <strong>Avoda Zara<\/strong> 5:15 states: \u201c<strong>libun<\/strong> requires that it gives off sparks.\u201d This is cited by Rosh, <strong>Tur<\/strong>, and SA 451:4. This is not a dispute, however. Rather, these are two different indicators of <strong>libun<\/strong>. So states <strong>Pri Megadim<\/strong> 442, <strong>Mishbetzot Zahav <\/strong>1.At first glance, it seems that the metal of the <strong>kli<\/strong> itself must spark and shed a layer, but metals generally do not spark or shed layers due to fire, and according to experts, they did not do so in the past, either. Therefore, it seems that the meaning is that the foods that remained stuck to the <strong>kelim<\/strong> would burn, char, and shed layers or burst and release sparks. This is similar to the explanation of R. Pfeiffer (<strong>Darakh Kokhav<\/strong>, p. 310), and many works cite his explanation (<strong>Ma\u2019adnei Asher<\/strong>, <strong>Issur Ve-hetter<\/strong> 159; <strong>Hora\u2019ah Berura<\/strong>, YD 121:59; <strong>Divrei David<\/strong>, vol. 1, YD 10). Even though nowadays, when we have soap, foods do not remain stuck to <strong>kelim<\/strong>, the requirement of kashering remains as it was (<strong>Peninei Halakha: Kashrut <\/strong>32:7-8).<\/p>\n<p>As I wrote above, there is a dispute among A\u1e25aronim with regard to <strong>libun<\/strong>. Many maintain that it requires a fixed temperature that would produce sparks if there is food stuck to the <strong>kli<\/strong>. These include: <strong>Pri Megadim<\/strong> 441, <strong>Eshel Avraham <\/strong>30; <strong>Responsa Maharam Schick<\/strong>, O\u1e24 213; R. Frank\u2019s <strong>Mikra\u2019ei Kodesh: Pesa\u1e25<\/strong> 1:80:7; <strong>Igrot Moshe<\/strong>, YD 1:60. Some adopt the lenient view that <strong>libun<\/strong> requires the same temperature at which the <strong>kli<\/strong> absorbed the forbidden food. These include: <strong>Responsa Arugat<\/strong><strong> Ha-bosem<\/strong>, O\u1e24 119; <strong>Min\u1e25at Yitz\u1e25ak<\/strong> 3:66; <strong>Tiferet Tzvi <\/strong>1:30; and <strong>Nitei Gavriel <\/strong>(Pesa\u1e25 1:75, n. 3) in the name of R. Aharon Kotler and R. Y. B. of Brisk. The accepted ruling is the stringent one, as this is the view cited in contemporary works of <strong>halakha<\/strong>. However, since according to many the absorption of <strong>\u1e25ametz<\/strong> throughout the year is considered the absorption of permissible matter (<strong>heteira bala<\/strong>), in which case even <strong>hagala<\/strong> would be effective, in times of need one may rule in accordance with the lenient view of <strong>libun<\/strong>, namely, that it requires the same temperature at which the <strong>kli<\/strong> absorbed the <strong>\u1e25ametz<\/strong>. This is certainly the case more than 24 hours after the absorption, as then the flavor is spoiled, and in cases of uncertainty we follow the lenient view. In addition, since nowadays metal <strong>kelim<\/strong> are cleaned thoroughly with soap, there is no concern that the forbidden food will impart flavor, and the kashering requirement is based on the <strong>kli<\/strong>\u2019s use with forbidden foods (<strong>Peninei Halakha: Kashrut <\/strong>32:7-8). In cases of other forbidden foods, where the rationale of <strong>heteira bala<\/strong> (i.e., <strong>\u1e25ametz<\/strong> absorbed throughout the year is considered permissible matter, so even <strong>kelim<\/strong> used in fire can be kashered by means of <strong>hagala<\/strong>) does not apply, one may only be lenient in the case of a significant loss (<strong>ibid<\/strong>. 33:6).<\/p>\n<p>Rabbeinu Avigdor, one of the Rishonim (cited in <strong>Hagahot Maimoniyot<\/strong> on MT, Laws of Forbidden Foods 17:5), has an even more lenient view: <strong>Libun<\/strong> consists of burning a fire under the <strong>kli<\/strong> to the point that if one places a piece of straw on it, it will be singed. This is what the Sages meant by \u201cuntil it gives off sparks.\u201d In practice, the consensus is not to adopt his leniency, and this form of <strong>libun<\/strong> is called \u201clight <strong>libun<\/strong>,\u201d which is more effective than <strong>hagala<\/strong>. When there is uncertainty about whether a <strong>kli<\/strong> requires <strong>libun<\/strong>, many rule that it may be kashered with light <strong>libun <\/strong>(<strong>Terumat Ha-deshen <\/strong>\u00a7130; Rema 451:4). Another advantage of light <strong>libun<\/strong> is that it is effective for crevices that are hard to clean and that <strong>hagala<\/strong> does not kasher (MB 451:33). Nowadays, these <strong>kelim<\/strong> can be cleaned with soap, which renders everything stuck in the crevices unfit for a dog\u2019s consumption.<\/p>\n<p>The <strong>poskim<\/strong> further write that there is an even lighter form of <strong>libun<\/strong>, namely, heating the <strong>kli<\/strong> to the temperature of \u201c<strong>yad soledet<\/strong> <strong>bo<\/strong>,\u201d i.e., at which the hand reflexively recoils (<strong>Levush<\/strong>; <strong>Taz <\/strong>451:8; SAH 10). This seems to refer to anything above 70<sup>o<\/sup>C. <strong>Pri Megadim<\/strong> (451, <strong>Eshel Avraham <\/strong>30) states that this form of <strong>libun<\/strong> is effective for food absorbed into a <strong>kli rishon<\/strong> after it had been removed from the fire.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Sages said that libun is the insertion of a kli into fire until \u201cthey shed their outer layer\u201d (Avoda Zara 76a) or until the kli gives off sparks (y. Avoda Zara 5:15). 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