{"id":6090,"date":"2010-01-06T05:00:48","date_gmt":"2010-01-06T03:00:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/?p=6090"},"modified":"2018-05-24T11:19:16","modified_gmt":"2018-05-24T08:19:16","slug":"02-06-05","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/02-06-05\/","title":{"rendered":"05 – Praying in a Minyan Conducted in a Different Nusach"},"content":{"rendered":"

Some poskim<\/i> say that when a person who is accustomed to one nusach<\/i> goes to pray in a minyan<\/i> held in a different nusach<\/i>, he must pray according to the nusach<\/i> of the minyan<\/i> he is attending, because the individuals must follow the majority. If he practices according to his own minhag<\/i> in front of the people in the congregation, it constitutes a transgression of the prohibition \u201clo titgodedu<\/i>\u201d (fragmenting the nation into divergent groups). This prohibition disallows having one court of law (beit din<\/i>) with some judges who rule according to the method of Beit Shamai <\/i>and others who rule according to Beit Hillel<\/i>, so that the Torah will not be divided into two seemingly different Torahs <\/i>(Yevamot<\/i> 14a, according to the Rif<\/i> and the Rosh<\/i>). Hence, the people of one synagogue should not pray in two different nusachim<\/i>. Furthermore, the Chachamim<\/i> teach (Pesachim<\/i> 50b) that a person must not stray from the custom of a place so as not to generate dispute (Pe\u2019at HaShulchan<\/i> 3:14).<\/p>\n

According to most poskim<\/i>, one is permitted to pray in his family\u2019s nusach<\/i> those parts of the prayer service that are recited silently. Since the differences are not noticeable, there is no fear of dispute, nor is there any transgression of the prohibition, \u201clo titgodedu<\/i>.\u201d However, prayers recited aloud should be prayed in the nusach<\/i> of the minyan<\/i> so as not to create controversy and disparity among the members of the congregation.[3]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n

One who must regularly pray in a minyan<\/i> conducted in a different nusach<\/i>, e.g., because he moves to a place in which the only minyan<\/i> prays in a different nusach<\/i> or because he prays in the minyan<\/i> that will strengthen his religiosity, is permitted to decide whether to pray in its nusach<\/i>, or adhere to his own family\u2019s custom, reciting the parts said aloud like the congregation.<\/p>\n

The chazan<\/i> leading the prayer service in a synagogue employing a nusach <\/i>that is different from his own must pray according to the minhag<\/i> of the place because he is praying as the people\u2019s emissary. However, for the silent prayers, he may pray according to his own minhag.<\/i>[4]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n

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[3]<\/a>.The prayers recited silently may be prayed in one\u2019s own nusach<\/i>. However, the Kedushah<\/i>, which is recited out loud, should be prayed in the chazan<\/i>\u2019s nusach<\/i>, as written in Shut Sho\u2019el U\u2019Meishiv<\/i> Edition 3, 1:247, Meishiv Davar<\/i> 1:17, Shivat Tzion<\/i> 5, Igrot Moshe<\/i>, Orach Chaim<\/i>, part 2, 23, and Minchat Yitzchak<\/i> 7:5. Regarding Pesukei d\u2019Zimrah<\/i>, Birkot Keriat<\/i> Shema<\/i>, and Nefillat Apayim<\/i>, the poskim<\/i> are uncertain. According to the Igrot Moshe<\/i>, Orach Chaim<\/i>, part 2, 23, since one is permitted to say Pesukei d\u2019Zimrah<\/i> out loud, it is better that he says them in the chazan<\/i>\u2019s nusach<\/i>. Similarly, concerning the matter of Nefillat Apayim<\/i> on Mondays and Thursdays, there is a difference in custom. According to Nusach Sephard<\/i>, we put our heads down before Tachanun<\/i>, and according to Nusach<\/i> Ashkenaz<\/i>, after Tachanun<\/i>. The Igrot Moshe<\/i>, Orach Chaim<\/i>, part 3, 89, writes that one may not stray from the custom of the place because it would be noticeable. However, the widespread custom is that every person prays according to his minhag<\/i>. Since it is known that there are many different minhagim<\/i> in prayer, the prohibition of \u201clo titgodedu<\/i>\u201d is not applicable in this case. Yet, those praying in a nusach<\/i> different from that of the chazan<\/i> should not call attention to themselves by praying out loud, as mentioned in Tefillah Kehilchatah<\/i> 4, notes 23 and 26. However, the Yabia Omer<\/i>, part 6, 10, maintains that even prayers which are recited out loud should continue to be prayed by each person in his own nusach<\/i> and there is no fear of \u201clo titgodedu<\/i>\u201d nor controversy because everyone knows that different minhagim<\/i> exist. Nonetheless, even according to his opinion, it seems that one should not actually recite those prayers aloud, because if he does, he incites controversy. <\/b><\/p>\n

In practice<\/b>, the person praying is permitted to choose a nusach<\/i> \u2013 his or the chazan<\/i>\u2019s \u2013 however, for the more noticeable prayers, it is proper to pray according to the chazan<\/i>\u2019s nusach<\/i>. Further, see Igrot Moshe<\/i> Orach Chaim<\/i>, Part 4, 34, outlining the aspects of the prohibition to pray according to different minhagim<\/i> in one synagogue.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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[4]<\/a>.\u00a0However, Yabia Omer<\/i>, part 6, Orach Chaim<\/i> 10:8, discusses a mourner who is accustomed to praying in one nusach<\/i> and comes to a place in which the people pray in a different nusach<\/i>. If they let him lead the prayer service according to his nusach<\/i>, he can lead. If not, it is better that he does not lead the prayer service and that he prays silently according to his own nusach<\/i>. However, most poskim<\/i> do not agree. The Igrot Moshe<\/i>, part 2, 29 and part 4, 33, maintains that even while praying silently he must pray like the congregation because the silent Amidah<\/i> prayer was intended as preparation for Chazarat HaShatz.<\/i> The Halichot Shlomo<\/i> 5:19 responds to this, saying that since he is reading from a siddur<\/i>, there is less need for preparation.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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