{"id":6096,"date":"2010-01-06T07:00:48","date_gmt":"2010-01-06T05:00:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/?p=6096"},"modified":"2018-05-24T11:19:41","modified_gmt":"2018-05-24T08:19:41","slug":"02-06-07","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/02-06-07\/","title":{"rendered":"07 &#8211; Those Accustomed to a Different Nusach"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Sometimes the question arises regarding how a person should practice when his father, who is a member of one ethnic group, becomes accustomed to praying in a <i>nusach<\/i> of a different ethnic group. Should he pray in the <i>nusach<\/i> in which his father currently prays or in the <i>nusach<\/i> of his father\u2019s ethnic group? As a general rule, the obligatory <i>minhag<\/i> is that of the ethnic group and not one\u2019s father\u2019s individual <i>minhag<\/i>. However, when the son prefers to continue in his father\u2019s adopted <i>nusach<\/i>, or because he finds it difficult to change, or for any other reason, he is permitted to continue praying in his father\u2019s <i>nusach<\/i>. Since this question poses implications on other issues, it is best that one consult with his rabbi on this matter.<\/p>\n<p>A similar dilemma arose among members of Chassidic families, who learned in Lithuanian <i>yeshivot<\/i> and became accustomed to praying in <i>Nusach Ashkenaz<\/i>. When they left the yeshiva, they deliberated whether to continue praying in <i>Nusach Ashkenaz<\/i> as they were taught in yeshiva, or return to praying in <i>Nusach Sephard<\/i>&#8211;<i>Chassidi<\/i>, the <i>minhag<\/i> of their parents.<\/p>\n<p>The rabbis of the Ashkenazic <i>minhag<\/i> taught that, in principle, they must continue praying in <i>Nusach Ashkenaz<\/i>, for in the past, all Ashkenazi<i>c<\/i> Jews prayed in <i>Nusach Ashkenaz<\/i>, and only 200 years ago did the <i>Chassidim<\/i> change their <i>nusach<\/i>. Even though now, after such a long time, all <i>Chassidim<\/i> will not be instructed to return to pray in <i>Nusach Ashkenaz<\/i>, still, it is best that those <i>Chassidim<\/i> who already became accustomed to praying in <i>Nusach Ashkenaz<\/i> continue to pray that way, because it is their ancestors\u2019 original <i>nusach<\/i>. However, the Chassidic rabbis insisted that they must continue in the Chassidic <i>nusach<\/i>, reasoning that since prominent Chassidic authorities have instructed those who prayed in <i>Nusach Ashkenaz<\/i> to switch to the <i>Nusach Sephard<\/i>&#8211;<i>Chassidi<\/i>, in congruence with the writings of the <i>Ari<\/i>, all the more so, anyone born into a Chassidic family must continue praying in the Chassidic <i>nusach<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>In practice, since there are differing opinions, the person posing the question may choose how to practice. Still, it is best to consult with one\u2019s rabbi on this matter.<sup><a id=\"_te02ftnref6_7\" class=\"aup1\" href=\"#_te02ftn6_7\">[7]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<div>\n<hr size=\"1\" \/>\n<div><a id=\"_te02ftn6_7\" href=\"#_te02ftnref6_7\">[7]<\/a>.\u00a0The position of the rabbis who pray in <i>Nusach Ashkenaz<\/i> is brought in <i>Igrot Moshe<\/i>,<i> Orach Chaim<\/i>, part 2, 24, as well as in <i>Tefillah Kehilchatah<\/i>, in the name of Rav Elyashiv. Their opinion is that <i>Nusach Ashkenaz<\/i> is the <i>nusach<\/i> in which it is proper for all <i>Ashkenazim<\/i> to pray. However, Rav Elyashiv adds in the next paragraph that one who has regularly prayed in a different <i>nusach <\/i>since he was born, and it is difficult for him to change, may continue praying in the <i>nusach<\/i> to which he has become accustomed, for that is what the <i>Chazon Ish<\/i> and Rabbi Yaakov Kanievsky have taught. The opinion of the Chassidic rabbis is widely known.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sometimes the question arises regarding how a person should practice when his father, who is a member of one ethnic group, becomes accustomed to praying in a nusach of a different ethnic group. Should he pray in the nusach in which his father currently prays or in the nusach of his father\u2019s ethnic group? 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