{"id":6333,"date":"2010-01-17T20:00:17","date_gmt":"2010-01-17T18:00:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/?p=6333"},"modified":"2018-05-24T11:47:18","modified_gmt":"2018-05-24T08:47:18","slug":"02-17-20","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/02-17-20\/","title":{"rendered":"20 &#8211; One Who Finishes Reciting the Amidah"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Regarding someone who finishes the <i>Shemoneh Esrei<\/i> while a person remains standing behind him in prayer, the law is as follows: if he is farther than four <i>amot<\/i> plus another three steps away from him, so that if he were to take three steps backwards he would not enter into the other\u2019s four <i>amot<\/i>, he may step back. If he is closer, he may not take steps back until the one reciting the<i> Amidah<\/i> behind him finishes his prayer. Even if the person behind him began praying late and extends his prayer, he is forbidden from stepping into the other\u2019s four <i>amot<\/i>. As we have learned, the <i>Acharonim<\/i> disagree concerning the parameters of the prohibition.<\/p>\n<p>According to the <i>Magen Avraham<\/i>, even if the person reciting the<i> Amidah<\/i> is not standing directly behind him, as long as by taking three steps back he will step into the radius of the four <i>amot<\/i> in front of him, he must wait until the person behind him finishes his prayer. According to the <i>Eliyah Rabbah<\/i>, it is only forbidden to step backwards in front of the person praying if he is standing directly in front of him. But if the person praying is not exactly in front of him, he is permitted to take three steps back. <i>L&#8217;chatchilah<\/i>, it is good to practice like the <i>Magen Avraham<\/i>, though in times of need one may be lenient like the opinion of the <i>Eliyah Rabbah<\/i> (<i>Mishnah Berurah<\/i> 102:18-19). Even in a situation in which the person praying is directly behind him, in extenuating circumstances he may step backwards diagonally, for there are those who explain that according to the <i>Eliyah Rabbah<\/i>, as long as his steps do not bring him closer to the person praying, he is permitted to step back (brought in the name of the <i>Chazon Ish<\/i> in the book <i>Fo<\/i><i>ur Amot of Prayer<\/i>, p.\u00a050 and 363).<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-6336\" style=\"font-size: 12px;line-height: 18px\" src=\"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/home\/tiporgil\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/3-300x120.png\" alt=\"3\" width=\"300\" height=\"120\" \/><br \/>\nIf between him and the person\u00a0reciting the<i> Amidah<\/i> stands a person who already finished his prayer, he is permitted to step backwards, since the one who already concluded his prayer constitutes a divider between them, even if the one dividing did not take three steps back yet.<\/p>\n<p>In times of need it is also permitted\u00a0to be lenient when there is a partition that is at least ten <i>tefachim<\/i> (80 cm; 2.62 feet) high and at least four <i>tefachim<\/i> (32 cm; 12.598 inches) wide between him and the person reciting the<i> Amidah<\/i>. Those who wish to be lenient are permitted to regard the big permanent benches in the synagogues as a partition, since their height is at least ten <i>tefachim<\/i>.<sup><a id=\"_te02ftnref17_19\" class=\"aup1\" href=\"#_te02ftn17_19\">[19]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>Regarding one who cannot step backwards because of the person reciting the<i> Amidah<\/i> behind him, although he has not yet separated from the <i>Amidah<\/i>, he is permitted to answer <i>Amen<\/i> and <i>Baruch Hu u\u2019varuch Shemo<\/i> and to recite all the prayers. If the congregation reaches <i>Tachanun<\/i>, he is permitted to sit and recite it, on condition that he does not sit directly in front of the other\u2019s face.<sup><a id=\"_te02ftnref17_15\" class=\"aup1\" href=\"#_te02ftn17_15\">[15]<\/a><\/sup> After that, he stands again in his place and when the person praying behind him concludes his prayer, he can take three steps backwards and say <i>Oseh shalom<\/i> (<i>Mishnah Berurah<\/i> 122:4 and see 104:9; also see earlier in this chapter, halachah 13).<\/p>\n<div>\n<hr size=\"1\" \/>\n<div><a id=\"_te02ftn17_19\" href=\"#_te02ftnref17_19\">[19]<\/a>. A person is considered a divider, as explained in <i>Beit Baruch<\/i> 26:23, <i>Az Nidberu<\/i>, part 3, 45; part 6, 47, and <i>Ishei Yisrael<\/i> 29:9. Regarding a partition ten <i>tefachim<\/i> high, there are <i>poskim<\/i> who forbid it, since it is too low and the person reciting the<i> Amidah<\/i> is likely to see the person in front of him taking three steps back and become distracted, as implied in the <i>Mishnah Berurah<\/i> 102:2. According to the <i>Eshel Avraham<\/i> 102, even if in front of him there is only a <i>shtender<\/i> (lectern) (which is not a valid partition), the person in front of him is permitted to step backwards or pass in front of the other praying behind him. He explains that this prohibition is based on the fact that the person reciting the<i> Amidah<\/i> behind him will be concerned that perhaps he will bump into him, but if there is a <i>shtender<\/i> between them, there is no such concern. This applies even more so in regard to a valid partition. The <i>Aruch HaShulchan<\/i> 102:13 writes that a partition can be used. Synagogue benches are sometimes open from the bottom, and if there is a space of more than 24 cm (9.45 inches, three <i>tefachim<\/i>), then they are not considered a divider. However, in general, when a person prays the <i>Amidah<\/i>, he usually puts his seat up, which leaves less than 24 cm between the bottom wooden board and the seat, and therefore it is considered to be a partition. Even when the space is larger than 24 cm (9.45 inches) and it is not considered to be a valid partition, according to the <i>Eshel Avraham<\/i>, since the person praying is not concerned that people will bump into him, one is permitted to step in front of him. One who wishes to be lenient is permitted to rely on his opinion. Even when the seat is a valid divider, it seems that it is not proper to sit directly in front of the person praying, for then the person praying will appear to be prostrating himself before him (as explained in halachah 17, note 15, of this chapter).<\/div>\n<div><a id=\"_te02ftn17_15\" href=\"#_te02ftnref17_15\">[15]<\/a>. The <i>Ohel Mo\u2019ed<\/i> is stringent, and there are those who do not take his opinion into consideration, as written in <i>Pri Chadash<\/i>. <i>Ben Ish Chai<\/i>,<i> Yitro<\/i> 6, writes that the custom is to act leniently, as writes <i>Yalkut Yosef<\/i> 102:2. However, many <i>Acharonim<\/i> are stringent, as both the <i>Mishnah Berurah<\/i> 102:9 and <i>Kaf HaChaim<\/i> 10, write. Even to stand in front of him within his four <i>amot<\/i>,<i> l&#8217;chatchilah<\/i> is not proper, so he does not appear to be prostrating himself before him, see <i>Mishnah Berurah<\/i> 102:8-9. The measure of approximately \u201cwithin a person\u2019s eyesight,\u201d concerning the matter of getting up for a <i>talmid chacham<\/i>, is defined in the <i>Shach<\/i>,<i> Yoreh De\u2019ah<\/i> 244:8 as 266 2\/3 <i>amot<\/i> (approximately 128 meters; 419.95 feet). However, it seems that in any case in which the person reciting the <i>Amidah<\/i> does not appear to be bowing down to the person in front of him, either due to the distance between them or the conditions of the area, there is no need to be stringent.The <i>Mishnah Berurah<\/i> 102:2 writes that if there is a partition with a height of 10 <i>tefachim<\/i> (80 cm; 31.49 inches) and a width of 4 <i>tefachim<\/i> (32 cm; 12.59 inches) between the person praying and himself, he may sit. Although a partition cannot be used to allow someone to pass by the person praying, since passing by will disturb his <i>kavanah<\/i>, sitting is nevertheless allowed, since for that, the partition is effective. According to the <i>Chayei Adam<\/i> and <i>Eshel Avraham<\/i> (<i>Butshatsh<\/i>), when there is a partition, one is even allowed to pass by the person praying. However, it seems that it is proper to be stringent regarding sitting directly in front of the person praying, so that he will not appear to be prostrating himself before him.I did not differentiate between the sides of a person and behind him. However, see <i>Beit Yosef<\/i> and <i>Darkei Moshe<\/i> who explain that some <i>poskim<\/i> rule that there is no prohibition against sitting behind a person praying, even within his four <i>amot<\/i>. Still, in practice, the <i>Acharonim<\/i> agree to forbid sitting behind him, as explained in the <i>Mishnah Berurah<\/i> 102:3 and <i>Kaf HaChaim<\/i> 4.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Regarding someone who finishes the Shemoneh Esrei while a person remains standing behind him in prayer, the law is as follows: if he is farther than four amot plus another three steps away from him, so that if he were to take three steps backwards he would not enter into the other\u2019s four amot, he [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":10,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[38],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6333","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-17-the-amidah"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>20 - One Who Finishes Reciting the Amidah - Peninei Halakha<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/02-17-20\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"20 - One Who Finishes Reciting the Amidah - Peninei Halakha\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Regarding someone who finishes the Shemoneh Esrei while a person remains standing behind him in prayer, the law is as follows: if he is farther than four amot plus another three steps away from him, so that if he were to take three steps backwards he would not enter into the other\u2019s four amot, he [&hellip;]\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/02-17-20\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Peninei Halakha\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2010-01-17T18:00:17+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2018-05-24T08:47:18+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"\u05e6\u05d5\u05d5\u05ea \u05d4\u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"\u05e6\u05d5\u05d5\u05ea \u05d4\u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"6 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/02-17-20\\\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/02-17-20\\\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"\u05e6\u05d5\u05d5\u05ea \u05d4\u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/8822293bfa4f7cd35b44a3c311851b63\"},\"headline\":\"20 &#8211; 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