{"id":6395,"date":"2010-01-19T09:00:35","date_gmt":"2010-01-19T07:00:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/?p=6395"},"modified":"2018-05-24T12:06:45","modified_gmt":"2018-05-24T09:06:45","slug":"02-19-09","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/02-19-09\/","title":{"rendered":"09 &#8211; Is It Possible to Make Up the Amidah Repetition?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ten men who each prayed individually and later gather in one place do not have the status of a <i>minyan<\/i> and cannot recite <i>Chazarat HaShatz<\/i> since they each already prayed as individuals (<i>Radbaz<\/i>; <i>Mishnah Berurah<\/i> 69:1; <i>Kaf HaChaim<\/i> 1; <i>Barchu<\/i> is made up after the prayer service for those who came late, as clarified further in this book 23:9).<\/p>\n<p>However, if there is a person among them who did not yet pray, he may say Half-<i>Kaddish<\/i> and <i>Barchu<\/i> after <i>Yishtabach.<\/i> When he reaches the <i>Amidah<\/i>, he recites the first three <i>berachot<\/i> aloud and the others then say <i>Kedushah<\/i> with him. That way, everyone is able to hear <i>Kaddish<\/i>, <i>Barchu<\/i>, and <i>Kedushah<\/i>. This law is called \u201c<i>Pores al Shema<\/i>\u201d<i> <\/i>(\u201cdividing the <i>Shema<\/i>\u201d). Similarly, in <i>Minchah<\/i>, a person who did not yet pray may recite <i>Ashrei<\/i>, <i>Kaddish<\/i>, and then the <i>Amidah<\/i>, saying the first three <i>berachot<\/i> aloud.<\/p>\n<p>The law concerning an individual who arrived late to prayer is similar. If there are nine people willing to answer <i>Amen<\/i> after him, when he reaches <i>Yishtabach<\/i>, he may recite<i> Kaddish<\/i> and <i>Barchu<\/i> and when he reaches the <i>Amidah<\/i>, he says the first three <i>berachot<\/i> out loud, thereby enabling the recital of <i>Kedushah<\/i>.<sup><a id=\"_te02ftnref19_10\" class=\"aup1\" href=\"#_te02ftn19_10\">[10]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>If six people have gathered to pray and another four who already prayed join them, the <i>chazan<\/i> may recite the entire prayer service. Since there are ten Jews there, and among them, a majority of a <i>minyan<\/i> who did not yet pray, they are considered a <i>minyan<\/i> and all the relevant laws apply.<sup><a id=\"_te02ftnref19_11\" class=\"aup1\" href=\"#_te02ftn19_11\">[11]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>However, if there are only five that have not yet prayed, their law is like that of an individual. When they arrive at <i>Yishtabach<\/i> they recite <i>Kaddish<\/i> and <i>Barchu<\/i>, and when they reach the <i>Amidah<\/i>, one of them recites the first three <i>berachot<\/i> out loud and subsequently they say <i>Kedushah<\/i> (see <i>Bei\u2019ur Halachah<\/i> 69 s.v. \u201c<i>Omer<\/i>\u201d).<\/p>\n<div>\n<hr size=\"1\" \/>\n<div>\n<p><a id=\"_te02ftn19_10\" href=\"#_te02ftnref19_10\">[10]<\/a>. Some say that when this individual, to whom the congregation agrees to respond, finishes <i>Tachanun<\/i>, he says Half-<i>Kaddish<\/i>, and when he concludes <i>U\u2019va L\u2019Tzion<\/i>, he says <i>Kaddish<\/i>&#8211;<i>Titkabal<\/i>. So write <i>Kaf HaChaim<\/i> 56:37 and <i>Ishei Yisrael<\/i> 34:4. The <i>Hagahot Ish Matzliach<\/i> on section 69 writes that some say that <i>Kaddish-Titkabal<\/i> is recited only when at least three people did not pray, and others say that it is only recited when six people who did not pray are present. Each community follows its own customs. As it seems, the prevalent <i>minhag<\/i> is to recite the <i>Kaddishim<\/i> after the <i>Amidah<\/i> only for six people who did not pray.<\/p>\n<p>In principle, if the person who did not yet pray is unable to pray aloud, someone else may be <i>chazan<\/i> for him, say the <i>Kaddish<\/i> and <i>Barchu<\/i> for him, and start the first three <i>berachot<\/i> of the <i>Amidah<\/i> out loud. Afterwards, that <i>chazan <\/i>who prayed for him must finish the rest of his prayer silently (see <i>Rama<\/i> 69 and <i>Mishnah Berurah<\/i> 17).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><a id=\"_te02ftn19_11\" href=\"#_te02ftnref19_11\">[11]<\/a>.\u00a0[1] If six people start reciting the <i>Amidah<\/i> with the hope that four others will eventually join them, and indeed, after they conclude their silent prayer, four people who already prayed arrive and are willing to complete the <i>minyan<\/i>, according to the <i>Radbaz<\/i>, since when they prayed silently there was no <i>minyan<\/i>, they cannot recite the <i>Amidah<\/i> repetition. Many<i> poskim<\/i> maintain, however, that since they assembled in order to pray in a <i>minyan<\/i>, they hoped that people would arrive to complete their <i>minyan<\/i>, and they even comprised most of a <i>minyan<\/i>, so they may recite <i>Chazarat HaShatz<\/i>. So writes <i>Har Tzvi Orach Chaim<\/i> 1:51 and <i>Yalkut Yosef<\/i> 69:1.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ten men who each prayed individually and later gather in one place do not have the status of a minyan and cannot recite Chazarat HaShatz since they each already prayed as individuals (Radbaz; Mishnah Berurah 69:1; Kaf HaChaim 1; Barchu is made up after the prayer service for those who came late, as clarified further [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":10,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[41],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6395","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-19-the-chazans-repetition-of-the-amidah"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>09 - Is It Possible to Make Up the Amidah Repetition? 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