{"id":6444,"date":"2010-01-21T08:00:40","date_gmt":"2010-01-21T06:00:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/?p=6444"},"modified":"2018-05-24T12:11:12","modified_gmt":"2018-05-24T09:11:12","slug":"02-21-08","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/02-21-08\/","title":{"rendered":"08 – Chatan, Ba\u2019alei Brit, and Other Ba\u2019alei Simchah"},"content":{"rendered":"

Tachanun<\/i> is not recited in a minyan<\/i> in which ba\u2019alei simchah<\/i> (those celebrating a joyous mitzvah celebration) are praying. Therefore, Tachanun<\/i> is not recited in a minyan<\/i> in which a chatan<\/i><\/b> (groom) within his seven days of festivity is praying. However, in Shacharit<\/i> and Minchah<\/i> before his wedding, Tachanun<\/i> is recited, although if Minchah<\/i> is prayed close to the ceremony at the wedding hall, Tachanun<\/i> is not recited.[8]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n

Similarly, in a minyan<\/i> in which one of the ba\u2019alei habrit<\/i><\/b> is praying, Tachanun<\/i> is not recited. The ba\u2019alei habrit<\/i> are: the father of the baby being circumcised, the mohel<\/i>, and the sandak<\/i>. This exemption lasts from the morning until the celebration meal (seudah<\/i>); that is, if the brit<\/i> is held in the morning, Tachanun<\/i> is not recited in the Shacharit <\/i>service. If the brit<\/i> is held after Minchah<\/i>, Tachanun<\/i> is omitted in both Shacharit<\/i> and Minchah<\/i> (Mishnah Berurah<\/i> 131:22; and see Piskei Teshuvot<\/i> 19).<\/p>\n

Not only in a minyan<\/i> in which one of the ba\u2019alei habrit<\/i> is praying is Tachanun<\/i> not recited, but even in the synagogue<\/b> in which the brit<\/i> is held, Tachanun<\/i> is not recited. In a building in which there are a number of prayer halls, Tachanun<\/i> is omitted only in the particular hall in which the brit<\/i> will be held.[9]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n

Bar Mitzvah<\/b>: many are accustomed not to say Tachanun<\/i> in a minyan<\/i> in which a youth who is reaching the age of mitzvot<\/i> on that day is praying, though some do recite it.<\/p>\n

Pidyon HaBen<\/i><\/b>: many are accustomed not to recite Tachanun<\/i> in a minyan<\/i> in which the father of the son is praying, yet some do.<\/p>\n

Likewise, in a prayer service adjoined to the ceremony of a conclusion of a tractate (siyum<\/i>), or the presentation of a Torah scroll (hachnasat sefer Torah<\/i>), many are accustomed not to recite Tachanun<\/i>, though some do.[10]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n

We already learned that when there is doubt as to whether or not to say Tachanun<\/i>, the correct way to practice is not to recite it (as brought in halachah 1).<\/p>\n

On days of public celebration in memory of prominent Jewish rabbis and righteous people (Yahrtzeit<\/i> or Hilulah<\/i>), the opinion of the absolute majority of poskim<\/i> is that it is necessary to say Tachanun<\/i>, and that is the custom. The Chassidic poskim<\/i> maintain that those who follow in the ways of a particular righteous person, engross themselves in his teachings throughout the year, and prepare a feast in his honor on the anniversary of his passing from this world, do not recite Tachanun<\/i> on that day. However, on the remaining celebration days in memory of other righteous people, Tachanun<\/i> must be recited.[11]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n

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[8]<\/a>. Some poskim<\/i> disagree and maintain that Tachanun<\/i> is not recited the whole day of the wedding. However, the primary opinion is that it is recited, for many are accustomed to fasting on that day. That is what the Mishnah Berurah<\/i> 131:21 implies and what Yabia Omer<\/i> 3:11-12 writes as well.<\/p>\n

On the eighth day<\/b>, as long as seven consecutive 24-hour days have not passed from the wedding ceremony, Tachanun<\/i> is not recited, as written in Mishnah Berurah<\/i> 131:26, Yalkut Yosef<\/i> 131:21, and Piskei Teshuvot<\/i> 22. However, regarding the recital of sheva berachot<\/i>, we go according to the days, and someone who got married before sunset already finishes his first day after sunset. This is because with regard to uncertainty concerning berachot<\/i>, we are lenient (safek berachot l\u2019hakel<\/i>), whereas concerning the matter of Tachanun<\/i>, we follow seven full 24-hour days.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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[9]<\/a>. Even if the brit<\/i> will be conducted at Minchah<\/i> time, Tachanun<\/i> is omitted there in Shacharit<\/i> as well. Additionally, even when there are a number of minyanim<\/i> for Shacharit<\/i>, Tachanun<\/i> is not recited in any of them. (In the past, there was a custom that on the day of a brit<\/i>, the whole community where the brit<\/i> was taking place did not recite Tachanun<\/i>, and perhaps even today it is proper to practice that way in relatively small and close-knit communities, where everyone shares in the joyous occasion.) If the brit<\/i> is conducted in the morning, some have the minhag<\/i> to recite Tachanun<\/i> at Minchah<\/i> (Piskei Teshuvot<\/i> 131:17, note 103) and some have the custom not to (Yalkut Yosef<\/i> 131:27-29).<\/p>\n

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[10]<\/a>. See the sources brought by Piskei Teshuvot<\/i> 131:24 and in the notes there. As a rule, in all the cases of uncertainty mentioned, those who pray in Nusach Sephard<\/i> (Sephardim<\/i> and Chassidim<\/i>) tend not to recite Tachanun<\/i>, whereas those who pray in Nusach Ashkenaz<\/i> have more of a tendency to say Tachanun<\/i>, as is written, for example, in Ishei Yisrael<\/i> 25:26 concerning pidyon haben<\/i>.<\/p>\n

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[11]<\/a>. Many poskim <\/i>outspokenly argued against the minhag<\/i> of the Chassidim<\/i> not to recite Tachanun<\/i> on the days of the passing of prominent Jews. Rav Feinstein<\/i> and Yabia Omer<\/i> 3:11 taught that one who prays in such a minyan<\/i> is obligated to recite Tachanun<\/i>, and he should not concern himself with yohara<\/i> (arrogance) or \u201cLo Titgodedu<\/i>.\u201d However, the Beit Baruch<\/i> 32:191 writes that it is preferable not to separate oneself from the congregation. Regarding the rulings of the Chassidic poskim<\/i>, see Piskei Teshuvot<\/i> 131:24.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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