{"id":7140,"date":"2016-01-06T05:00:37","date_gmt":"2016-01-06T03:00:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/?p=7140"},"modified":"2016-07-12T18:33:27","modified_gmt":"2016-07-12T15:33:27","slug":"01-06-05","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/01-06-05\/","title":{"rendered":"05. The Required Amount of Wine"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In order to fulfill the mitzva of <em>kiddush<\/em> there must be enough wine in the cup to be considered significant, so that the <em>berakha<\/em> is recited over something. This amount is the volume of an egg and a half (one fourth [<em>revi\u2019it<\/em>] of a <em>log<\/em>, commonly referred to simply as a <em>revi\u2019it<\/em>), which is the minimum amount that must be present in any cup being used to fulfill a mitzva (<em>kos shel berakha<\/em>). If less than this amount is used, the mitzva has not been fulfilled (<em>Shabbat<\/em> 76b; <em>Pesa\u0125im<\/em> 107a, 108b; MA 271:32).<\/p>\n<p>For many years it was assumed that the egg and a half that Rambam mentions was the equivalent of 86 ml, based on the opinion of R. \u0124ayim Naeh. However, more precise calculations show that the amount is really 75 ml. Some are stringent and maintain that the eggs nowadays are only half the size that they once were, so that the amount of wine in the cup must be doubled to 150 ml. (<em>\u0124azon Ish<\/em>). In practice, the bottom line is that one may make <em>kiddush<\/em> over 75 ml of wine, but many Ashkenazim are stringent <em>le-khat\u0125ila<\/em> to use 150 ml.<sup><a id=\"_ze05ftnref6_5\" class=\"aup1\" href=\"#_ze05ftn6_5\">[5]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>After making <em>kiddush<\/em>, one must drink a \u201c<em>melo lugmav<\/em>\u201d \u2013 the amount of wine that could fill the drinker\u2019s cheek if he puffed it out \u2013 considered the smallest amount that has a relaxing effect on the drinker. This corresponds to the majority of a <em>revi\u2019it<\/em>, or at least 38 ml, but one with a bigger mouth must drink more. For most people this amount will be between 50 and 55 ml, but nobody, even a giant, must drink more than a <em>revi\u2019it<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>If the person making <em>kiddush<\/em> is unable to drink a <em>melo lugmav<\/em>, one of the listeners can do so instead. <em>Be-di\u2019avad<\/em>, if a cheek full is drunk collectively, all have fulfilled their obligation, even though no individual drank a cheek full (<em>Pesa\u0125im<\/em> 107a; SA 271:14; MB <em>ad loc.<\/em> 73).<sup><a id=\"_ze05ftnref6_6\" class=\"aup1\" href=\"#_ze05ftn6_6\">[6]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<div>\n<hr size=\"1\" \/>\n<div>\n<p><a id=\"_ze05ftn6_5\" href=\"#_ze05ftnref6_5\">[5]<\/a>. See <em>Peninei Halakha:<\/em> <em>Berakhot <\/em>10:11 or <em>Har\u0125avot<\/em> here. In brief, a mistake was made when R. \u0124ayim Naeh calculated the amount according to Rambam. The measurement of a dirhem (drachma) in use in Rambam\u2019s age was a bit smaller than the Turkish dirhem that R. Naeh used in his calculation. Accordingly, Rambam and those who follow him maintain that an egg and a half (which corresponds to a <em>revi\u2019it<\/em>) is 75 ml. Thus writes R. Beinish (<em>Midot Ve-shi\u2019urei Torah<\/em> 30:5; 16:6); R. Ovadia Yosef agrees. (Early Ashkenazic custom was to consider an egg\u2019s bulk to be 46 ml and a <em>revi\u2019it<\/em> to be 69.) However, <em>Noda Bi-Yehuda<\/em> states that eggs are only half the size they once were. <em>\u0124azon Ish<\/em> adopts this approach, calculating accordingly that an egg and a half is about 150 ml. MB states that when the mitzva concerned is rooted in the Torah, such as <em>kiddush<\/em> on Friday night, it is preferable to be stringent and follow <em>Noda Bi-Yehuda<\/em>. However for rabbinic <em>mitzvot<\/em> such as the four cups at the Seder and the requirement to make a <em>berakha a\u0125arona<\/em>, one need not follow the double <em>shi\u2019ur<\/em> even <em>le-khat\u0125ila<\/em>. This is also explained in <em>Peninei Halakha: Pesa\u0125<\/em> 16:8; 16:23 and n. 20 <em>ad loc<\/em>.<a id=\"_ze05ftn6_6\" href=\"#_ze05ftnref6_6\">[6]<\/a>. If the person making <em>kiddush<\/em> drinks less than a <em>melo lugmav<\/em>, and everyone collectively drinks less than a <em>melo lugmav<\/em>, they have not fulfilled the mitzva as instituted. According to MA 271:32, they did not fulfill it at all, and the one who made <em>kiddush<\/em> must continue to drink until he reaches a cheek full. If he had already become distracted, he must make another <em>berakha<\/em> over the wine. If he got up and went somewhere else, he must make <em>kiddush<\/em> again. However, according to some <em>poskim<\/em>, even though he did not fulfill the mitzva of <em>kiddush <\/em>properly, he nevertheless fulfilled it <em>be-di\u2019avad<\/em>, since he did make <em>kiddush<\/em> over a cup of wine. This is the opinion of <em>Kaf Ha-\u0125ayim<\/em> 271:82 and <em>Or<\/em> <em>Le-Tziyon<\/em>, 2:20:7. See SSK 48:9 and n. 57. Since one is in doubt about the law, one who did not drink a <em>melo lugmav<\/em> may not say <em>kiddush<\/em> again, but should try to hear <em>kiddush<\/em> recited by someone else.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In order to fulfill the mitzva of kiddush there must be enough wine in the cup to be considered significant, so that the berakha is recited over something. This amount is the volume of an egg and a half (one fourth [revi\u2019it] of a log, commonly referred to simply as a revi\u2019it), which is the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[76],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7140","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-01-06"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>05. The Required Amount of Wine - Peninei Halakha<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/01-06-05\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"05. The Required Amount of Wine - Peninei Halakha\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"In order to fulfill the mitzva of kiddush there must be enough wine in the cup to be considered significant, so that the berakha is recited over something. This amount is the volume of an egg and a half (one fourth [revi\u2019it] of a log, commonly referred to simply as a revi\u2019it), which is the [&hellip;]\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/01-06-05\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Peninei Halakha\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2016-01-06T03:00:37+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2016-07-12T15:33:27+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"\u05de\u05e0\u05d4\u05dc \u05d4\u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"\u05de\u05e0\u05d4\u05dc \u05d4\u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"3 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/01-06-05\\\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/01-06-05\\\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"\u05de\u05e0\u05d4\u05dc \u05d4\u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/716cb852d9b9d1fb36cf3b60a4415178\"},\"headline\":\"05. The Required Amount of Wine\",\"datePublished\":\"2016-01-06T03:00:37+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2016-07-12T15:33:27+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/01-06-05\\\/\"},\"wordCount\":693,\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/#organization\"},\"articleSection\":[\"06 - Laws of Kiddush\"],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/01-06-05\\\/\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/01-06-05\\\/\",\"name\":\"05. The Required Amount of Wine - Peninei Halakha\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2016-01-06T03:00:37+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2016-07-12T15:33:27+00:00\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/01-06-05\\\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/01-06-05\\\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/01-06-05\\\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"\u05d3\u05e3 \u05d4\u05d1\u05d9\u05ea\",\"item\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"05. The Required Amount of Wine\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/\",\"name\":\"Peninei Halakha\",\"description\":\"HaRav Eliezer Melamed\",\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/#organization\"},\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":{\"@type\":\"PropertyValueSpecification\",\"valueRequired\":true,\"valueName\":\"search_term_string\"}}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Organization\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/#organization\",\"name\":\"Peninei Halakha\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/\",\"logo\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/logo\\\/image\\\/\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/sites\\\/10\\\/2020\\\/08\\\/logo-ph-.png\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/sites\\\/10\\\/2020\\\/08\\\/logo-ph-.png\",\"width\":300,\"height\":64,\"caption\":\"Peninei Halakha\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/logo\\\/image\\\/\"}},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/716cb852d9b9d1fb36cf3b60a4415178\",\"name\":\"\u05de\u05e0\u05d4\u05dc \u05d4\u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/secure.gravatar.com\\\/avatar\\\/8ba17770ba8ce22dc07b91d8f4d0b098f24d0589815cb02522b506f7d0ee9d94?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/secure.gravatar.com\\\/avatar\\\/8ba17770ba8ce22dc07b91d8f4d0b098f24d0589815cb02522b506f7d0ee9d94?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/secure.gravatar.com\\\/avatar\\\/8ba17770ba8ce22dc07b91d8f4d0b098f24d0589815cb02522b506f7d0ee9d94?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"caption\":\"\u05de\u05e0\u05d4\u05dc \u05d4\u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\"},\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/ph.yhb.org.il\\\/en\\\/author\\\/thfvhacvcss\\\/\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"05. The Required Amount of Wine - Peninei Halakha","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/01-06-05\/","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"05. The Required Amount of Wine - Peninei Halakha","og_description":"In order to fulfill the mitzva of kiddush there must be enough wine in the cup to be considered significant, so that the berakha is recited over something. This amount is the volume of an egg and a half (one fourth [revi\u2019it] of a log, commonly referred to simply as a revi\u2019it), which is the [&hellip;]","og_url":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/01-06-05\/","og_site_name":"Peninei Halakha","article_published_time":"2016-01-06T03:00:37+00:00","article_modified_time":"2016-07-12T15:33:27+00:00","author":"\u05de\u05e0\u05d4\u05dc \u05d4\u05d0\u05ea\u05e8","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"\u05de\u05e0\u05d4\u05dc \u05d4\u05d0\u05ea\u05e8","Est. reading time":"3 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"Article","@id":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/01-06-05\/#article","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/01-06-05\/"},"author":{"name":"\u05de\u05e0\u05d4\u05dc \u05d4\u05d0\u05ea\u05e8","@id":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/#\/schema\/person\/716cb852d9b9d1fb36cf3b60a4415178"},"headline":"05. The Required Amount of Wine","datePublished":"2016-01-06T03:00:37+00:00","dateModified":"2016-07-12T15:33:27+00:00","mainEntityOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/01-06-05\/"},"wordCount":693,"publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/#organization"},"articleSection":["06 - Laws of Kiddush"],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/01-06-05\/","url":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/01-06-05\/","name":"05. The Required Amount of Wine - Peninei Halakha","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/#website"},"datePublished":"2016-01-06T03:00:37+00:00","dateModified":"2016-07-12T15:33:27+00:00","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/01-06-05\/#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/01-06-05\/"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/01-06-05\/#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"\u05d3\u05e3 \u05d4\u05d1\u05d9\u05ea","item":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"05. The Required Amount of Wine"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/#website","url":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/","name":"Peninei Halakha","description":"HaRav Eliezer Melamed","publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/#organization"},"potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Organization","@id":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/#organization","name":"Peninei Halakha","url":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/08\/logo-ph-.png","contentUrl":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/08\/logo-ph-.png","width":300,"height":64,"caption":"Peninei Halakha"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/"}},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/#\/schema\/person\/716cb852d9b9d1fb36cf3b60a4415178","name":"\u05de\u05e0\u05d4\u05dc \u05d4\u05d0\u05ea\u05e8","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/8ba17770ba8ce22dc07b91d8f4d0b098f24d0589815cb02522b506f7d0ee9d94?s=96&d=mm&r=g","url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/8ba17770ba8ce22dc07b91d8f4d0b098f24d0589815cb02522b506f7d0ee9d94?s=96&d=mm&r=g","contentUrl":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/8ba17770ba8ce22dc07b91d8f4d0b098f24d0589815cb02522b506f7d0ee9d94?s=96&d=mm&r=g","caption":"\u05de\u05e0\u05d4\u05dc \u05d4\u05d0\u05ea\u05e8"},"url":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/author\/thfvhacvcss\/"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7140","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7140"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7140\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7140"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7140"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7140"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}