{"id":7161,"date":"2016-01-07T05:00:56","date_gmt":"2016-01-07T03:00:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/?p=7161"},"modified":"2016-07-13T15:14:43","modified_gmt":"2016-07-13T12:14:43","slug":"01-07-05","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/01-07-05\/","title":{"rendered":"05. <em>Se\u2019uda Shlishit<\/em>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>If one does not have bread for <em>se\u2019uda shlishit <\/em>or finds it difficult to eat bread, <em>be-di\u2019avad<\/em> he may fulfill his obligation by eating <em>mezonot<\/em>. Although one may not use <em>mezonot<\/em> for the first and second meals (SA 274:4), when it comes to <em>se\u2019uda shlishit<\/em>, some maintain that the primary purpose of the meal is to increase one\u2019s delight, not to reach satiety, so one is not obligated to eat bread specifically. Therefore, <em>be-di\u2019avad<\/em> one fulfills the obligation with <em>mezonot<\/em>. If he does not have <em>mezonot<\/em> either, or cannot eat them, he should eat meat or fish. If one has no meat or fish, he should eat fruit, preferably cooked, since cooked fruit is considered more akin to a proper meal (SA 291:5).<\/p>\n<p>Ideally one should plan his eating so that he will have an appetite for <em>se\u2019uda shlishit<\/em>. If it turns out that he is eating <em>se\u2019uda shlishit <\/em>not long after lunch, he should eat less at lunch so that he will have an appetite for <em>se\u2019uda shlishit<\/em>. If one was not careful about this and as a result is full when it is time for <em>se\u2019uda shlishit<\/em>, he may eat a bit more than a <em>keveitza<\/em> of bread and thereby fulfill his obligation. <em>Be-di\u2019avad<\/em>, he may even eat only a <em>kezayit<\/em> of bread. If a <em>kezayit<\/em> of bread or other foods is still too much and would cause him grief, he has lost this mitzva opportunity (SA 291:1; MB <em>ad loc.<\/em> 2).<\/p>\n<p>According to Rambam, one must make a <em>berakha<\/em> over wine during <em>se\u2019uda shlishit<\/em>. Some understand this to mean that just as one makes <em>kiddush<\/em> before lunch, similarly he must make <em>kiddush<\/em> before <em>se\u2019uda shlishit <\/em>(<em>Tur<\/em>). However, in practice the mitzva of <em>kiddush<\/em> is once by night and once by day, and there is no mitzva to make <em>kiddush<\/em> over wine at <em>se\u2019uda shlishit <\/em>(SA 291:4). Others say that Rambam is merely ruling that there is a mitzva to drink wine at <em>se\u2019uda shlishit <\/em>in order to make Shabbat more delightful. Indeed, several A\u0125aronim write that it is best to beautify the mitzva by having wine at <em>se\u2019uda shlishit<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><em>Se\u2019uda shlishit <\/em>must begin before <em>shki\u2019a<\/em>. As long as one recited \u201c<em>ha-motzi<\/em>\u201d before <em>shki\u2019a<\/em> and began the meal, he may continue to eat even well after <em>tzeit<\/em>. However, if one was not eating bread but <em>mezonot<\/em>, fruits, or vegetables, or if he was drinking, then once <em>shki\u2019a<\/em> arrives he must stop, because these foods do not render this a proper meal; since the time for <em>havdala<\/em> has already arrived, one may not eat or drink (SA 299:1; MB <em>ad loc<\/em>. 2; AHS <em>ad loc<\/em>. 3-5; below 8:8).<\/p>\n<p>One who did not manage to begin <em>se\u2019uda shlishit <\/em>before <em>shki\u2019a<\/em> may start eating up to 13.5 minutes after <em>shki\u2019a<\/em> (and may continue eating well beyond nightfall). But later than that, he should not eat <em>se\u2019uda shlishit<\/em>.<sup><a id=\"_ze05ftnref7_4\" class=\"aup1\" href=\"#_ze05ftn7_4\">[4]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>If a bride, a groom, and a <em>minyan<\/em>, were present at <em>se\u2019uda shlishit<\/em>, <em>Sheva Berakhot<\/em> are recited at the conclusion of the meal. The person who leads the <em>zimun<\/em>, the bride, and the groom all drink from the wine after <em>Birkat Ha-mazon<\/em> even if it is past <em>tzeit<\/em> and they have not yet made <em>havdala<\/em>, because drinking this wine is a continuation of their meal (See below 8:8 where we record that some are accustomed to drink wine from the <em>kos shel berakha<\/em> even without a bride and groom present).<\/p>\n<div>\n<hr size=\"1\" \/>\n<div><a id=\"_ze05ftn7_4\" href=\"#_ze05ftnref7_4\">[4]<\/a>. 13.5 minutes is the time that <em>bein ha-shmashot<\/em> extends according to the Ge\u2019onim, while according to Rabbeinu Tam it is still day (see above, ch. 3, end of n. 1). Therefore, one may be lenient and start <em>se\u2019uda shlishit<\/em> then. This is the position recorded in <em>Igrot Moshe<\/em> O\u0124 4:62 and <em>Yalkut Yosef<\/em> 291:20. (See MB 299:1 and SHT <em>ad loc.<\/em>2. 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