{"id":7188,"date":"2016-01-08T04:00:28","date_gmt":"2016-01-08T02:00:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/?p=7188"},"modified":"2016-07-14T14:18:32","modified_gmt":"2016-07-14T11:18:32","slug":"01-08-04","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/01-08-04\/","title":{"rendered":"04. Using Beverages Other Than Wine"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ideally one should make <em>havdala<\/em> over wine, which is the most dignified beverage, as it nourishes and gladdens, so when it is enjoyed in the service of a mitzva, it has the unique capability to reveal the inner goodness of the Jewish people. The Sages state that one who makes <em>havdala<\/em> over wine on Saturday night will be blessed with children (<em>Shev.<\/em> 18b).<\/p>\n<p>However, if there is no wine available, one may use <em>\u0125amar medina<\/em> (lit. \u201cthe wine of the country\u201d), a dignified beverage that people in that locale drink as one would drink wine (SA 296:2). For example, in many places people commonly drink beer. In such places, since beer is important for them, they may make <em>havdala<\/em> over it, replacing <em>Ha-gafen <\/em>with <em>She-hakol<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>If one has wine but prefers <em>\u0125amar medina<\/em>, some say that he may not make <em>havdala<\/em> on <em>\u0125amar medina<\/em> (Rabbeinu \u0124ananel; Rashbam), while others maintain one may nevertheless use <em>\u0125amar medina<\/em> (Rambam; <em>Smag<\/em>). In practice, it is proper for even one who prefers beer to recite <em>havdala <\/em>over wine, as long as he also likes wine. However, if he wants to, he may make <em>havdala<\/em> on <em>\u0125amar medina<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Vodka and arak are also considered <em>\u0125amar medina<\/em>, but because they are so strong it is difficult to drink a <em>melo lugmav <\/em>(c. 50-55 ml) of them. One who is able to drink a <em>melo lugmav <\/em>of them may recite <em>havdala <\/em>over them.<\/p>\n<p>The <em>poskim<\/em> disagree about whether a beverage must be alcoholic to be considered <em>\u0125amar medina<\/em>. The lenient <em>poskim<\/em> maintain that any beverage that one would serve to important guests, and which people sometimes sit around drinking with friends, is considered a dignified beverage and may be used for <em>havdala<\/em>. Thus, one may make <em>havdala <\/em>on coffee, tea, or malt beer, as well as fresh-squeezed apple juice or orange juice. However, one should not make <em>havdala<\/em> over flavored beverages or other soft drinks, like grapefruit juice or Coca Cola, because they are not dignified beverages, merely drinks that quench one\u2019s thirst. Some rule leniently even regarding these beverages, since one would serve them to important guests.<\/p>\n<p>The stringent <em>poskim <\/em>maintain that only alcoholic beverages are considered <em>\u0125amar medina<\/em>, because these are the beverages that people drink at collegial parties. Other drinks, however, are not so dignified and should not be used for <em>havdala<\/em>. According to this, one may make <em>havdala<\/em> on beer and other alcoholic beverages, but not on coffee, malt beer, or fruit juice.<\/p>\n<p>In practice, one should be stringent and make <em>havdala<\/em> over alcoholic beverages only. Only if these are unavailable, then <em>be-di\u2019avad<\/em> one may make <em>havdala<\/em> on dignified non-alcoholic beverages.<sup><a id=\"_ze05ftnref8_3\" class=\"aup1\" href=\"#_ze05ftn8_3\">[3]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<div>\n<hr size=\"1\" \/>\n<div>\n<p><a id=\"_ze05ftn8_3\" href=\"#_ze05ftnref8_3\">[3]<\/a>. There are many different positions on this question. <em>Tzitz Eliezer<\/em> 8:16 writes, based on a number of A\u0125aronim, that one may make <em>havdala<\/em> on black coffee and the like. SSK 60:6-7 is also inclined to be lenient regarding coffee, but writes that one should not make <em>havdala<\/em> over soft drinks. R. Mordechai Eliyahu and R. Dov Lior are lenient and allow <em>havdala<\/em> to be made over soft drinks as well (<em>Ha-morim Ba-keshet<\/em>, p. 14). This is also the opinion of R. Na\u0125um Rabinovitch (<em>Melumdei Mil\u0125ama<\/em>, p. 206). In contrast, R. Ovadia Yosef (<em>Yabi\u2019a Omer<\/em> 3:19) mentions opinions of stringent A\u0125aronim who insist that <em>havdala<\/em> may be recited only over alcoholic beverages. He rules stringently in practice because this could involve a <em>berakha le-vatala<\/em>.Since there are differing opinions, one should not make <em>havdala<\/em> over a non-alcoholic beverage. However, it seems that under extenuating circumstances, when one is unable to attain wine or alcoholic drinks, he may rely on the lenient opinions. After all, there are Rishonim who maintain that one may recite the <em>berakha <\/em>of <em>Ha-mavdil<\/em> without any beverage at all. Maharam of Rothenburg quotes this position in the name of R. Sim\u0125a. <em>Tur<\/em> states that this position is also found in <em>Pirkei De-Rabbi Eliezer<\/em>. Furthermore, it would seem to be the position of Rif and Rosh, who maintain that in a case where one must do <em>melakha<\/em> before making <em>havdala<\/em> over a cup of wine, he should say the <em>berakha<\/em> of <em>Ha-mavdil<\/em>, including God\u2019s name, even without a cup of wine, and do what he needs to do. Later on he should make <em>havdala<\/em> over wine. Even though the <em>halakha <\/em>does not follow this opinion, we nevertheless see that some say one may recite <em>ha-mavdil <\/em>without wine. Therefore, in a case of necessity one may rely on those who permit making <em>havdala<\/em> over a dignified non-alcoholic beverage.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ideally one should make havdala over wine, which is the most dignified beverage, as it nourishes and gladdens, so when it is enjoyed in the service of a mitzva, it has the unique capability to reveal the inner goodness of the Jewish people. The Sages state that one who makes havdala over wine on Saturday [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[78],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7188","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-01-08"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>04. 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