{"id":7245,"date":"2016-01-10T10:00:25","date_gmt":"2016-01-10T08:00:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/?p=7245"},"modified":"2016-07-14T16:37:00","modified_gmt":"2016-07-14T13:37:00","slug":"01-10-10","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/01-10-10\/","title":{"rendered":"10. Davar Gush<\/em>"},"content":{"rendered":"

As we stated in section 7, a kli rishon<\/em> can cook anything, a kli sheni <\/em>can cook only kalei ha-bishul<\/em>, and a kli shlishi<\/em> cannot cook at all. However, the poskim<\/em> disagree regarding the status of a davar gush<\/em> (hot, solid food).<\/p>\n

Some maintain that the general rules of vessels apply in this case as well, and once a davar gush<\/em> is moved to a kli shlishi<\/em> it cannot cook anything that is placed upon it. This is the opinion of the majority of poskim<\/em> (Rema; Vilna Gaon; Pri Megadim<\/em>; \u0124atam Sofer; Nishmat Adam<\/em>).<\/p>\n

However, some poskim<\/em> are stringent and rule that the aforementioned principles apply only to liquids or soft foods that come into complete contact with the walls of a pot. Such foods can no longer cook if they are transferred from a kli rishon<\/em> to a kli sheni <\/em>and from a kli sheni <\/em>to a kli shlishi<\/em>. But chunks of solid food \u2013 pieces of meat, kugel, potatoes, or clumpy rice \u2013 retain their heat even when transferred from vessel to vessel, as the walls of the new vessels do not have a strong cooling effect on solid food. Therefore, as long as these foods remain at a temperature of yad soledet bo<\/em> or hotter, they are able to cook, no matter how many vessel transfers they have undergone (MA; MB 318:45).<\/p>\n

In practice, since this relates to a Torah prohibition, it is appropriate to be stringent. However, if one is in doubt about whether cooking would be involved, one may be lenient even le-khat\u0125ila<\/em>. Therefore, if one can touch the piece of food and it is doubtful whether it is yad soledet bo<\/em>, there is no need to worry that it will cook (see section 4 above). Even if it is clear that it is still yad soledet bo<\/em>, one may put previously-cooked cold gravy on it, since some maintain that ein bishul a\u0125ar bishul<\/em> applies to liquids as well (see section 5 above). Similarly, one may salt the food, since salt can only be cooked in a kli rishon<\/em> that is on the fire (MB 318:71). Additionally, one may place pickles or raw vegetables on a hot piece of kugel or meat, because one does not intend to cook them.<\/p>\n

In contrast, one may not sprinkle raw spices like paprika and pepper on a hot piece of meat or kugel, as there is a benefit to the spices cooking \u2013 it enables their taste to be absorbed more effectively into the food. Therefore, before adding spices to a hot dish, one should wait until it has cooled off enough that one can touch it.[9]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n

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[9]<\/a>. Regarding the laws of kashrut<\/em>, some are stringent in the case of a davar gush<\/em> if it is still yad soledet bo<\/em>. This is the approach of Isur Ve-heter<\/em>, Maharshal, Shakh<\/em>, Pri \u0124adash<\/em>, and Pri Megadim<\/em>. Opposing them are Rema, Vilna Gaon, and \u0124atam Sofer, based on Tosafot<\/em> and Ran, who insist that a davar gush<\/em> is no different from other foods. Others maintain that we are stringent for kashrut<\/em> purposes because a davar gush<\/em> can absorb tastes; but for Shabbat purposes, since a davar gush<\/em> cannot cook, there is no prohibition. This is the approach of Min\u0125at Yaakov<\/em> 61:45; Pri Megadim<\/em>, Mishbetzot Zahav<\/em>, YD 97:14. Furthermore, Igrot Moshe<\/em> O\u0124 4:74, Bishul<\/em> 5; R. Ovadia Yosef, Halikhot Olam<\/em>, 4:12; and Or Le-Tziyon<\/em> 2:30:16 state that one may be lenient. However, MA 318:45 is stringent concerning Shabbat as well as kashrut<\/em>, as are MB 318:118 and SSK 1:64. Since this disagreement relates to a Torah prohibition, it is proper to defer to those who are stringent, but in practice one need be stringent only regarding spices. In a case where there is an additional doubt, one may be lenient on the basis of the principle of twofold doubt. Similarly, one may be lenient regarding putting butter<\/strong> on a very hot solid, as the Igrot Moshe<\/em> states, since butter is pasteurized, and pasteurizing is the equivalent of cooking. (SSK ch. 1 n. 198 disagrees, however.)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

As we stated in section 7, a kli rishon can cook anything, a kli sheni can cook only kalei ha-bishul, and a kli shlishi cannot cook at all. However, the poskim disagree regarding the status of a davar gush (hot, solid food). Some maintain that the general rules of vessels apply in this case as […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[80],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7245","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-01-10"],"yoast_head":"\n10. 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