{"id":8281,"date":"2016-02-11T00:05:25","date_gmt":"2016-02-10T22:05:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/?p=8281"},"modified":"2018-05-24T12:47:45","modified_gmt":"2018-05-24T09:47:45","slug":"03-11-05","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/03-11-05\/","title":{"rendered":"05. One May Not Pray Near His Primary Rabbi"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"left\"><span style=\"margin: 0px;font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">One may not recite the <\/span><i><span style=\"color: #000000;font-family: Times New Roman\">Amida<\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: #000000\"> prayer too close to his primary rabbi (\u201c<\/span><i><span style=\"color: #000000;font-family: Times New Roman\">rav muvhak<\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: #000000\">\u201d), for if he prays alongside him, and certainly in front of him, he presents himself as his rabbi\u2019s equal at least. On the other hand, he may not pray behind his rabbi, for should the rabbi finish praying before he does, the rabbi will feel uncomfortable because he cannot take three steps backwards \u2013 and it would be terrible for one to make his mentor feel uncomfortable. Furthermore, the student may appear as though he is bowing down to his rabbi (SA 90:24; MB 74). <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><span style=\"margin: 0px;font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">If the student distances himself by four <\/span><i><span style=\"color: #000000;font-family: Times New Roman\">amot<\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: #000000\"> (c. two meters), it is permitted. However, if he prays behind his rabbi, he must distance himself four <\/span><i><span style=\"color: #000000;font-family: Times New Roman\">amot<\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: #000000\"> and another three paces (c. 60 cm), so that even if he were to prolong his prayer, his rabbi would be able to take three steps backwards. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><span style=\"margin: 0px;font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Who is considered one\u2019s primary rabbi? The one from whom she has learned the majority of her wisdom in one area of the Torah. One of the great Torah leaders of the generation has the same status. Likewise, the rabbi of a place is considered a primary rabbi (AHS YD<\/span><i> <\/i><span style=\"color: #000000\">242:29; see also <\/span><i><span style=\"color: #000000;font-family: Times New Roman\">Peninei Halakha: Prayer<\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: #000000\">, ch. 3 n. 8). Some say that during the time period that one is learning from a certain rabbi, even if he did not teach her most of her knowledge, at that time, the teacher has the status of her primary rabbi (<\/span><i><span style=\"color: #000000;font-family: Times New Roman\">Divrei Malkiel<\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: #000000\"> 2:74).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><span style=\"margin: 0px;font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Concerning a <\/span><i><span style=\"color: #000000;font-family: Times New Roman\">rabbanit <\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: #000000\">(a rabbi\u2019s wife, who is often a teacher and religious guide in her own right), there is a prohibition on praying alongside her in two situations: 1. when she is married to one\u2019s <\/span><i><span style=\"color: #000000;font-family: Times New Roman\">rav muvhak<\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: #000000\"> or to one of the prominent Torah leaders of the generation, and her main goal is to assist her husband in his sacred mission; and 2. when she herself is an educator and most of her students\u2019 Torah knowledge or teaching has come from her, in which case, her students must relate to her as they would to a <\/span><i><span style=\"color: #000000;font-family: Times New Roman\">rav muvhak<\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: #000000\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><span style=\"margin: 0px;font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Some say that these rulings apply only in a situation where the student chooses to pray next to the <\/span><i><span style=\"color: #000000;font-family: Times New Roman\">rabbanit<\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: #000000\">. But if they were seated near each other in the women\u2019s section, she may pray there, for there is no question of arrogance on the part of the student. In times of need, one may rely on this opinion (<\/span><i><span style=\"color: #000000;font-family: Times New Roman\">Peninei Halakha: Prayer<\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: #000000\">, ch. 3 n. 9). Certainly when the <\/span><i><span style=\"color: #000000;font-family: Times New Roman\">rabbanit<\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: #000000\"> invites the student to sit next to her or agrees to the student sitting next to her there is no prohibition or concern of arrogance on the part of the student, and she may pray there.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One may not recite the Amida prayer too close to his primary rabbi (\u201crav muvhak\u201d), for if he prays alongside him, and certainly in front of him, he presents himself as his rabbi\u2019s equal at least. 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