{"id":9691,"date":"2014-09-06T09:00:22","date_gmt":"2014-09-06T06:00:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/?p=9691"},"modified":"2019-11-21T13:30:46","modified_gmt":"2019-11-21T11:30:46","slug":"14-06-09","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/en\/14-06-09\/","title":{"rendered":"09. Noa\u1e25ides"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The mitzva of procreation is relevant even to Noa\u1e25ides (non-Jews), as God said to Noa\u1e25 and his sons: \u201cAnd you, be fruitful and multiply, abound on the earth and increase on it\u201d (Bereishit 9:7). However, the specific obligations that require men to get married by the age of twenty (24 at the latest) and to have a son and a daughter (5:7-9 above) do not apply to Noa\u1e25ides (see <em>Sanhedrin<\/em> 59a).<\/p>\n<p>If a Noa\u1e25ide had a son and a daughter and later converted to Judaism, he has fulfilled the mitzva of procreation, for even when he was a non-Jew, the mitzva was relevant to him (<em>Yevamot<\/em> 62a). There is a disagreement as to whether this is the case only if his children also converted, or if it is true even if they did not (5:4 above).<\/p>\n<p>Since the mitzva for Noa\u1e25ides is a general one and is not an absolute obligation with specific parameters, a Noa\u1e25ide who has good reasons not to fulfill it \u2013 for example, if there is a reasonable concern that his children will be sick, or if there is a serious concern that he will not be able to educate his children to be decent people \u2013 he need not do so even <em>le-khat\u1e25ila<\/em>.<sup><a href='#_te01ftn6_11' id='_te01ftnref6_11' class='aup1'>[11]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>Some say that Noa\u1e25ides may not waste seed. We have seen (4:1) that this is one of the sins that was punished by the flood, as we read:<\/p>\n<p>The earth became corrupt before God; the earth was filled with lawlessness. When God saw how corrupt the earth was, for all flesh had corrupted its ways on earth, God said to Noah, \u201cI have decided to put an end to all flesh, for the earth is filled with lawlessness because of them: I am about to destroy them with the earth.\u201d (Bereishit 6:11-13)<\/p>\n<p>The Sages explain that the flood waters were as hot and thick as semen, for \u201cwith hot passion they sinned, and with hot water they were punished\u201d (<em>Sanhedrin<\/em> 108b). The waters of the deep overflowed and drowned them (R. \u1e24ayim Palachi, <em>\u1e24ayim Ve-shalom<\/em> \u00a716; <em>Tzofnat Pa\u2019ane\u2019a\u1e25<\/em> \u00a730).<\/p>\n<p>In contrast, some say that there is no prohibition for Noa\u1e25ides to masturbate and waste seed; since this prohibition hinges on the mitzva to procreate, which does not apply to Noa\u1e25ides, they are also not included in the prohibition to waste seed (based on <em>Tosafot<\/em> to <em>Sanhedrin<\/em> 59b, s.v. \u201cve-hu\u201d; <em>Igrot Moshe<\/em> 4:116). It would seem, though, that even according to those who are lenient, such behavior is improper, for all desire should be directed toward increasing love within the framework of marriage.<sup><a href='#_te01ftn6_12' id='_te01ftnref6_12' class='aup1'>[12]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<div>\n<hr size=\"1\" \/>\n<div>\n<a href='#_te01ftnref6_11' id='_te01ftn6_11'>[11]<\/a>. At first glance it seems that the Rishonim disagree as to whether Noa\u1e25ides are obligated to procreate. According to <em>She\u2019iltot<\/em> (165) and <em>Tosafot<\/em> (<em>\u1e24agiga<\/em> 2b s.v. \u201clo tehei\u201d), they are obligated. This is based on <em>Yevamot<\/em> 62a, where there is a discussion of whether a convert who had children while he was a non-Jew has fulfilled the mitzva of procreation. According to R. Yo\u1e25anan he has, \u201cbecause they were subject to the commandment to procreate beforehand.\u201d Rashi, Raavan, and Me\u2019iri conclude from this that Noa\u1e25ides have a mitzva to procreate. In contrast, the straightforward reading of the Talmud in <em>Sanhedrin<\/em> 59b seems to indicate that Noa\u1e25ides are exempt from the mitzva. According to <em>Tosafot<\/em> (<em>Yevamot<\/em> 62a s.v. \u201cbnei\u201d), non-Jews are not obligated to procreate, but if they do have children, the children are considered of their lineage. <em>Or Zaru\u2019a<\/em> and R. Avraham Min Ha-har agree (commenting on <em>Yevamot<\/em> <em>ibid<\/em>.). However, it is possible to say that even in their opinion, while non-Jews are not obligated to procreate, the general mitzva is relevant to them as well. (The general mitzva is actually greater than the individual obligation, as I explained above in 5:3.) This is the position of AHS 1:5. One can argue that the relationship of non-Jews to procreation is similar to that of Jewish women. Fulfilling the mandate to procreate is a tremendous mitzva for them, but not an obligation.<\/p>\n<p><a href='#_te01ftnref6_12' id='_te01ftn6_12'>[12]<\/a>. <em>Sdei \u1e24emed<\/em> (<em>Klalim<\/em>, <em>Ma\u2019arekhet Zayin<\/em>, <em>klal<\/em> 20) explains that according to <em>Tosafot<\/em> (<em>Sanhedrin<\/em> 59b) there is no prohibition for non-Jews to waste seed, because they are not obligated to procreate. <em>She\u2019iltot<\/em>, which maintains that non-Jews are obligated, rules that they may not waste seed. However, Ramban and Rashba (above, ch. 4 n. 15) argue that there is no connection between the obligation to procreate and the prohibition against wasting seed. Thus, we can say that Noa\u1e25ides may not waste seed just as Jewish women may not masturbate \u2013 because desire must be preserved to increase love between husband and wife.<\/p>\n<p>It is possible that the ruling in this case hinges on the underlying rationale of the prohibition. If the prohibition to waste seed stems from the prohibition of \u201cDo not commit adultery\u201d (following <em>Or Zaru\u2019a<\/em> 1:124 and <em>Smak<\/em> \u00a7292), then perhaps Noa\u1e25ides are included, since they, too, are admonished not to commit adultery. If the prohibition to waste seed stems from the mitzva of procreation (following <em>Tosafot<\/em>), or from the prohibition of <em>bal tash\u1e25it<\/em> (following R. Yaakov Ettlinger), then non-Jews are not included, even though wasting seed is still improper.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The mitzva of procreation is relevant even to Noa\u1e25ides (non-Jews), as God said to Noa\u1e25 and his sons: \u201cAnd you, be fruitful and multiply, abound on the earth and increase on it\u201d (Bereishit 9:7). 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