{"id":1311,"date":"2016-01-11T00:05:08","date_gmt":"2016-01-10T22:05:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/fr\/?p=1311"},"modified":"2017-07-20T12:48:08","modified_gmt":"2017-07-20T09:48:08","slug":"01-11-05","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/fr\/01-11-05\/","title":{"rendered":"05. L\u2019interdit d\u2019extraire le d\u00e9chet d\u2019entre la partie comestible"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Comme nous l\u2019avons vu, le \u00ab\u00a0mode de la consommation\u00a0\u00bb (<em>d\u00e9rekh akhila<\/em>) consiste \u00e0 prendre la partie comestible afin de la manger imm\u00e9diatement\u00a0; en revanche, si l\u2019on prend le d\u00e9chet d\u2019entre la partie comestible, on transgresse l\u2019interdit de <em>borer<\/em><sup><a href='#_te01ftn11_4' id='_te01ftnref11_4' class='aup1'>[4]<\/a><\/sup>.<\/p>\n<p>M\u00eame quand le d\u00e9chet est en petite quantit\u00e9, et qu\u2019il est facile de l\u2019extraire du sein du m\u00e9lange, ce serait transgresser l\u2019interdit toranique que de l\u2019extraire. Par exemple, si une coquille d\u2019\u0153uf est tomb\u00e9e dans une salade d\u2019\u0153ufs, il est interdit de n\u2019extraire <em>que<\/em> cette coquille, car il est interdit d\u2019extraire le d\u00e9chet d\u2019entre la partie comestible. On l\u2019extraira donc avec un peu d\u2019\u0153uf\u00a0; et dans la mesure o\u00f9 l\u2019on peut manger le morceau d\u2019\u0153uf (qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 ainsi extrait aux c\u00f4t\u00e9s de la coquille), ledit morceau est dot\u00e9 d\u2019une certaine importance ; par cons\u00e9quent, on consid\u00e8rera que, par ce retrait, on a s\u00e9par\u00e9 une partie comestible d\u2019une autre partie comestible, ce qui n\u2019est pas interdit. De m\u00eame, si un p\u00e9pin de citron est tomb\u00e9 dans la salade, on ne l\u2019en fera pas sortir seul, mais on pourra l\u2019en faire sortir avec un peu de salade (pour le cas d\u2019un insecte que l\u2019on veut extraire d\u2019un plat, cf. infra \u00a7 15)<sup><a href='#_te01ftn11_5' id='_te01ftnref11_5' class='aup1'>[5]<\/a><\/sup>.<\/p>\n<p>De m\u00eame, si l\u2019on a une grappe de raisin qui porte de bons grains et des grains ab\u00eem\u00e9s, il est interdit d\u2019extraire de la grappe les raisins ab\u00eem\u00e9s. Quand on voudra en manger, on prendra les bons grains, que l\u2019on consommera.<\/p>\n<p>Dans le m\u00eame sens, si l\u2019on n\u2019aime pas l\u2019oignon, et que l\u2019on se voie servir une salade contenant des morceaux d\u2019oignon, il sera interdit de les extraire de la salade, car, \u00e0 son \u00e9gard, ces morceaux ont le statut de \u00ab\u00a0d\u00e9chet\u00a0\u00bb. Si l\u2019on veut manger de cette salade, on mangera ce que l\u2019on aime et on laissera les morceaux d\u2019oignon dans l\u2019assiette. Mais s\u2019il se trouve un convive qui soit pr\u00eat \u00e0 manger les morceaux d\u2019oignon qui sont dans l\u2019assiette de son camarade, il sera permis \u00e0 ce dernier d\u2019extraire ces morceaux pour que l\u2019amateur d\u2019oignon les mange imm\u00e9diatement. De cette fa\u00e7on, les morceaux d\u2019oignon seront, eux aussi, consid\u00e9r\u00e9s comme <em>okhel<\/em>, partie comestible (<em>Chemirat Chabbat Kehilkhata<\/em> 3, 23-24).<\/p>\n<p>De m\u00eame, si je n\u2019aime pas les champignons, et que l\u2019on m\u2019ait servi une soupe en contenant, il m\u2019est interdit de les en extraire. M\u00eame si je prends, \u00e0 chaque fois, un peu de soupe dans ma cuiller avec les champignons, il est \u00e9vident, puisque je dois extraire beaucoup de champignons, que mon intention ne vise que ces derniers, si bien que l\u2019on consid\u00e8re que je trie le \u00ab\u00a0d\u00e9chet\u00a0\u00bb d\u2019entre la partie comestible, et que je transgresse l\u2019interdit (cf. ci-apr\u00e8s, note 18). Mais si l\u2019un des convives aime les champignons et se dit pr\u00eat \u00e0 manger les miens derechef, il m\u2019est permis de les extraire de mon assiette et de les faire passer dans celle du convive.<\/p>\n<div>\n<hr size=\"1\" \/>\n<div>\n<a href='#_te01ftnref11_4' id='_te01ftn11_4'>[4]<\/a>. Si l\u2019on a l\u2019intention de prendre la partie comestible et que, par erreur, on ait pris du d\u00e9chet, on n\u2019a pas pour autant transgress\u00e9 l\u2019interdit toranique, car on n\u2019a pas eu l\u2019intention de trier. Et puisque l\u2019on a d\u00e9j\u00e0 le d\u00e9chet en main, on peut le mettre de c\u00f4t\u00e9 (<em>Chemirat Chabbat Kehilkhata<\/em> 3, note 11. Certains disent qu\u2019il convient de remettre le d\u00e9chet dans le m\u00e9lange, afin de ne pas profiter de son erreur\u00a0: <em>Menou\u2019hat Ahava<\/em> II 7, 9).<\/p>\n<p><a href='#_te01ftnref11_5' id='_te01ftn11_5'>[5]<\/a>. Selon le <em>Michna Beroura<\/em> (<em>B\u00e9our Halakha<\/em> 319, 4 \u05d3\u00a0\u00bb\u05d4 \u05de\u05ea\u05d5\u05da), si l\u2019on prend, avec le d\u00e9chet, un peu de la partie comestible, l\u2019extraction est permise\u00a0: puisque l\u2019on prend aussi de ce qui est comestible, on ne consid\u00e8re pas que l\u2019on extrait le d\u00e9chet d\u2019entre le comestible. C\u2019est aussi l\u2019avis du <em>Chevitat Hachabbat<\/em> (<em>Borer, Beer Re\u2019hovot <\/em>20). Certes, selon le <em>\u2018Hazon Ich, Ora\u2019h \u2018Ha\u00efm<\/em> 53 et 54, 3, d\u00e8s lors que l\u2019intention se porte sur l\u2019extraction du d\u00e9chet, le peu de partie comestible qui l\u2019accompagne ne sert de rien. Mais si l\u2019on consid\u00e8re la position de tous les A\u2019haronim, qui permettent d\u2019enlever un insecte avec un peu du liquide o\u00f9 il est tomb\u00e9 (cf. ci-apr\u00e8s, note 18), on peut en inf\u00e9rer que la halakha ne suit pas en cela la position du <em>\u2018Hazon Ich<\/em>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Comme nous l\u2019avons vu, le \u00ab\u00a0mode de la consommation\u00a0\u00bb (d\u00e9rekh akhila) consiste \u00e0 prendre la partie comestible afin de la manger imm\u00e9diatement\u00a0; en revanche, si l\u2019on prend le d\u00e9chet d\u2019entre la partie comestible, on transgresse l\u2019interdit de borer[4]. M\u00eame quand le d\u00e9chet est en petite quantit\u00e9, et qu\u2019il est facile de l\u2019extraire du sein du [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":10,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[89],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1311","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-01-11"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>05. 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