{"id":1531,"date":"2016-01-19T00:09:29","date_gmt":"2016-01-18T22:09:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/fr\/?p=1531"},"modified":"2017-07-24T09:08:23","modified_gmt":"2017-07-24T06:08:23","slug":"01-19-09","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ph.yhb.org.il\/fr\/01-19-09\/","title":{"rendered":"09. Tiges et fleurs mises en vase"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>L\u2019interdit de <em>mouqts\u00e9 <\/em>ne s\u2019applique pas \u00e0 des branchettes, \u00e0 des tiges ni \u00e0 des fleurs qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 cueillies avant Chabbat et que l\u2019on a destin\u00e9es \u00e0 la d\u00e9coration ou \u00e0 l\u2019ambiance olfactive. Aussi est-il permis de d\u00e9placer un vase contenant des rameaux d\u00e9coratifs ou odorif\u00e9rants. De m\u00eame, il est permis de sortir les tiges de l\u2019eau pour les regarder ou les sentir\u00a0: cela ne rel\u00e8ve pas de l\u2019interdit de \u00ab\u00a0moissonner\u00a0\u00bb, puisque ces tiges n\u2019ont pas de racines. Il est \u00e9galement permis de remettre dans l\u2019eau des tiges d\u00e9pourvues de fleurs, ou des tiges fleuries mais dont les fleurs ont fini d\u2019\u00e9clore. Cela ne rel\u00e8ve pas de l\u2019interdit de \u00ab\u00a0semer\u00a0\u00bb, car l\u2019eau ne fera pas cro\u00eetre davantage les tiges ni les fleurs\u00a0; elle conservera simplement leur fra\u00eecheur, afin qu\u2019elles ne fl\u00e9trissent pas.<\/p>\n<p>Par contre, il est interdit de mettre dans l\u2019eau des tiges o\u00f9 sont des bourgeons de fleurs, ou encore des fleurs qui ont commenc\u00e9 d\u2019\u00e9clore, mais ne sont pas enti\u00e8rement ouvertes, car les mettre dans l\u2019eau fait \u00e9clore les fleurs. Il est cependant permis de les extraire de l\u2019eau, ce qui ne rel\u00e8ve pas de l\u2019interdit de \u00ab\u00a0moissonner\u00a0\u00bb, car ces fleurs n\u2019ont pas pris racine dans l\u2019eau. Mais apr\u00e8s les en avoir sorties, on n\u2019est plus autoris\u00e9 \u00e0 les remettre. Par cons\u00e9quent, si l\u2019on re\u00e7oit, le Chabbat, un bouquet de fleurs en cadeau, et que certaines fleurs ne sont pas \u00e9closes enti\u00e8rement, on ne les mettra pas dans l\u2019eau, afin de ne pas causer la poursuite de leur croissance et de leur \u00e9closion\u00a0; on placera le bouquet dans un vase, mais sans eau<sup><a href='#_te01ftn19_8' id='_te01ftnref19_8' class='aup1'>[8]<\/a><\/sup>.<\/p>\n<div>\n<hr size=\"1\" \/>\n<div>\n<p><a href='#_te01ftnref19_8' id='_te01ftn19_8'>[8]<\/a>. Rama 336, 11. Selon le Mahariqs (Rabbi Ya\u2019aqov Castro), il est m\u00eame permis de mettre des fleurs dans l\u2019eau, car leur \u00e9closion ne constitue pas une nouvelle croissance. Mais son opinion n\u2019a pas \u00e9t\u00e9 adopt\u00e9e. Selon le <em>Cha\u2019ar Hatsioun<\/em> 336, 48, il est \u00e0 craindre d\u2019enfreindre l\u00e0 un interdit toranique.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Il est admis que, si l\u2019on extrait des branchettes de l\u2019eau, on est autoris\u00e9 \u00e0 les y remettre. Mais les d\u00e9cisionnaires sont partag\u00e9s quant au fait de savoir s\u2019il est permis de les mettre dans l\u2019eau une premi\u00e8re fois. Selon le <em>Toss\u00e9fet Chabbat<\/em> et le <em>\u2018Hay\u00e9 Adam<\/em>, c\u2019est interdit\u00a0; selon Rabbi Chn\u00e9or Zalman de Liady et le <em>Peri M\u00e9gadim<\/em>, c\u2019est permis, comme le rapporte le <em>Michna Beroura<\/em> 336, 54. Le <em>Cha\u2019ar Hatsioun<\/em> pr\u00e9cise que l\u2019on peut \u00eatre indulgent, car cette controverse porte sur une question rabbinique\u00a0; cela, \u00e0 la condition d\u2019avoir un vase d\u2019eau, pr\u00eat depuis la veille de Chabbat\u00a0; mais il est interdit, le Chabbat, de remplir un r\u00e9cipient d\u2019eau pour les besoins de tiges, car ce serait se donner de la peine (<em>tir\u2019ha<\/em>) pour que les plantes se maintiennent, comme l\u2019explique le trait\u00e9 <em>Souka<\/em> 42a en mati\u00e8re de feuille de palmier (<em>loulav<\/em>). Le <em>Ye\u2019hav\u00e9 Da\u2019at<\/em> II 53, se fondant sur le Rachba, est indulgent, et permet de remplir un vase d\u2019eau\u00a0: selon lui, ce n\u2019est qu\u2019au sujet de la branche de palmier, qui est <em>mouqts\u00e9<\/em>, que les sages ont \u00e9t\u00e9 rigoureux, mais la chose est permise pour les autres branches, comme on le voit en <em>Choul\u2019han \u2018Aroukh<\/em> 321, 11\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Il est permis d\u2019abreuver\u00a0 ce qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 cueilli, afin que cela ne fane pas.\u00a0\u00bb C\u2019est aussi la position du <em>Menou\u2019hat Ahava<\/em> II 3, note 18. Il semble possible de s\u2019appuyer sur les d\u00e9cisionnaires indulgents, dans une controverse portant sur une r\u00e8gle rabbinique.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>L\u2019interdit de mouqts\u00e9 ne s\u2019applique pas \u00e0 des branchettes, \u00e0 des tiges ni \u00e0 des fleurs qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 cueillies avant Chabbat et que l\u2019on a destin\u00e9es \u00e0 la d\u00e9coration ou \u00e0 l\u2019ambiance olfactive. Aussi est-il permis de d\u00e9placer un vase contenant des rameaux d\u00e9coratifs ou odorif\u00e9rants. 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