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Propos de Torah et conversation \u00e0 table"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Nous lisons dans les <em>Maximes des p\u00e8res<\/em> (3, 3)\u00a0:<\/p>\n<p>Rabbi Chimon dit\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Si trois personnes ont mang\u00e9 \u00e0 une m\u00eame table et n\u2019y ont pas prononc\u00e9 de paroles de Torah, c\u2019est comme si elles avaient consomm\u00e9 des sacrifices offerts aux morts, comme il est dit\u00a0: \u201cCar toutes les tables sont remplies de vomissure et de salet\u00e9, sans laisser de place.\u201d (Is 28, 8) Mais quand trois personnes ont mang\u00e9 \u00e0 une m\u00eame table et y ont prononc\u00e9 des paroles de Torah, c\u2019est comme si elles avaient mang\u00e9 \u00e0 la table de Dieu, b\u00e9ni soit-Il, comme il est dit\u00a0: \u201cEt il me dit\u00a0: ceci est la table qui est plac\u00e9e devant l\u2019\u00c9ternel.\u201d (Ez 41, 22)\u00a0\u00bb<\/p>\n<p>L\u2019obligation de tenir \u00e0 table des propos de Torah existe principalement lorsque trois personnes mangent ensemble, car alors leur repas prend une importance particuli\u00e8re\u00a0: \u00e0 l\u2019instar de son importance mat\u00e9rielle, il faut aussi donner \u00e0 ce repas de l\u2019importance sur le plan spirituel, en y pronon\u00e7ant des paroles de Torah. Faute de cela, le repas serait tel un corps sans vie, dont l\u2019\u00e2me a \u00e9t\u00e9 reprise. D\u00e8s lors, les aliments que l\u2019on y a servis seraient comparables \u00e0 des \u00ab\u00a0sacrifices offerts aux morts\u00a0\u00bb. Mais lorsqu\u2019on dit \u00e0 table des paroles de Torah, l\u2019\u00e2me se relie au corps, lui dispensant vie et b\u00e9n\u00e9diction.<\/p>\n<p>Quand on n\u2019est pas trois \u00e0 table, on n\u2019est pas oblig\u00e9 de dire des paroles de Torah\u00a0: le <em>Birkat hamazon<\/em> suffit alors (<em>Maguen Avot<\/em> du Rachbats). Certains estiment cependant que, m\u00eame si l\u2019on mange seul, il est pr\u00e9f\u00e9rable que l\u2019on \u00e9tudie quelque peu la Torah (<em>Michna Beroura<\/em> 170, 1).<\/p>\n<p>M\u00eame la simple r\u00e9citation de <em>Chir hama<\/em><em>\u2018alot<\/em> (Ps 126, <em>Cantique des degr\u00e9s<\/em>), ou d\u2019autres versets, peut \u00eatre consid\u00e9r\u00e9e comme <em>paroles de Torah<\/em> (<em>Michna Beroura<\/em> 170, 1). Il est cependant pr\u00e9f\u00e9rable de tenir des propos de Torah ne consistant pas en une simple lecture de versets, mais pr\u00e9sentant un suppl\u00e9ment de valeur et de sens, afin que, gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 cela, le repas entier s\u2019\u00e9l\u00e8ve.<\/p>\n<p>Nos Sages enseignent\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0On ne converse pas pendant le repas, de crainte que la nourriture ne parvienne \u00e0 la trach\u00e9e au lieu de l\u2019\u0153sophage, et que l\u2019on ne s\u2019\u00e9touffe.\u00a0\u00bb (<em>Choul\u2018han \u2018Aroukh<\/em> 170, 1) D\u00e8s lors que l\u2019on parle, en effet, la trach\u00e9e (conduit de la respiration) est ouverte, et la nourriture risque d\u2019y entrer. Mais de nos jours, nombreux sont les auteurs indulgents en la mati\u00e8re. Certains expliquent que l\u2019interdit s\u2019appliquait lorsqu\u2019on mangeait \u00ab\u00a0accoud\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb (<em>b\u00e9-hassaba<\/em>) \u2013 c\u2019est-\u00e0-dire, en r\u00e9alit\u00e9, \u00e0 demi-allong\u00e9\u00a0\u2013, mais que, si l\u2019on est assis, il n\u2019y a pas de danger \u00e0 cela (<em>Pericha\u00a0<\/em>; <em>Birk\u00e9 Yossef<\/em>). Certains estiment que, de nos jours encore, il faut \u00eatre rigoureux \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard (<em>Peri M\u00e9gadim, Echel Avraham<\/em> 1\u00a0; cf. <em>\u2018Aroukh Hachoul\u2018han<\/em> 2). Quoi qu\u2019il en soit, m\u00eame si l\u2019on est indulgent, on sera pointilleux quant \u00e0 la politesse\u00a0: on s\u2019exprimera de mani\u00e8re agr\u00e9able, sans que les autres convives voient la nourriture que l\u2019on a en bouche. \u00c0 plus forte raison, on veillera \u00e0 ne pas projeter de d\u00e9bris de nourriture tandis qu\u2019on parle.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nous lisons dans les Maximes des p\u00e8res (3, 3)\u00a0: Rabbi Chimon dit\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Si trois personnes ont mang\u00e9 \u00e0 une m\u00eame table et n\u2019y ont pas prononc\u00e9 de paroles de Torah, c\u2019est comme si elles avaient consomm\u00e9 des sacrifices offerts aux morts, comme il est dit\u00a0: \u201cCar toutes les tables sont remplies de vomissure et de [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[247,248],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5891","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-chapitre-13-derekh-erets","category-les-bons-usages"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>08. 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